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Has anyone got a new job after getting a disciplinary from the previous job?

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Snowpatrolling · 11/12/2024 19:13

Sorry for the long title,
I need some help, had a really crap end of year, got made redundant from a job I love.
started working a new job shortly after.
I’m facing disciplinary action after I done something wrong, I totally deserve it and it’s my own fault, however I have come to realise the job isn’t for me,
ive been told it’s procedure and my job is not at risk, I am still in probation.
i have applied for new jobs, how the hell do I tell them about the disciplinary? I’m going to need to disclose it at interview stage but how?
has anyone been in the same situation and it worked out ok? Need some reassurance!
I am totally remorseful, it was a stupid mistake and I’m devastated I was so stupid.
I have applied for a few jobs that I think will suit me better but I’m scared they won’t take me on. They are jobs I am absolutely qualified for.
thankyou in advance!

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Prisonpillow · 11/12/2024 20:05

It’s quite normal to give a referee from a prior job to the one you’re in now so that your current employers don’t find out you’re looking.

Were you working before this job? If so, just give their details.

orangewasp · 11/12/2024 20:26

I've always had references taken up before firmly accepting a job offer and handing my notice in - but I've worked in the public and third sectors so maybe private is different.

Dazedandconfused10 · 12/12/2024 07:40

Part of my job is providing references. I just confirm job title and dates. I don't know everyone in my company therefore could not provide more information. Even if asked for more information on the form I ignore it. And no from from any 3rd party referencing company I have received has asked about disciplinary actions, if it did, I'd ignore the question.

StormingNorman · 12/12/2024 07:51

You need to agree a reference and resign before the disciplinary is awarded.

user1471538283 · 12/12/2024 13:39

Unless it's gross misconduct I think you can get a standard reference that just states basic facts. You have other references to rely on. Then you can say that this firm only gives standard references.

Annony331 · 12/12/2024 15:18

Depends on the job

We would put left under disciplinary action because we have a duty under safeguarding.

Often the question. Would you re-employ? Is just yes or no but if there was a reason we might add. No, dismissed for xyz. Or No please contact xyz name to discuss.

Another job might not have this duty.

Whatyoutalkingabouteh · 12/12/2024 22:55

References are usually factual, dates employed, salary and role held. They are interested in whether you actually worked there. Never seen one commenting on disciplinary action.
Definitely agree not to resign before your contract. Could you speak to your mgr to say you’ve applied for another role and they’ll be contacted for references? I would never begrudge someone for leaving for another job. Yes you haven’t been there long but the probation period is as much for you as it is for the employer - if the role is not for you then why wouldn’t you look for something more suitable. Don’t feel bad!

SleepPrettyDarling · 12/12/2024 22:59

If asked, I’d say it became clear during the probationary period that the company wasn’t a good fit (for you). I wouldn’t disclose anything more than that.

Pieandchips999 · 12/12/2024 23:01

I know you feel the current job isn't for you but if you aren't going to lose it could you ride it out for a bit so the negative stuff isn't so recent. Is it the sort of thing where you will just get a warning? Maybe as part of the disciplinary process you can discuss with them openly what will happen about a reference. You could see if you can negotiate an agreed reference especially if they want you to go but don't have enough to sack you. If you're in a union they can help with this. I know when I got made redundant it sent me all over the place for a bit and job hopping didn't really help. Might be positive to end things on a good note

ARainyNightInSoho · 12/12/2024 23:04

I often receive reference forms to complete as part of my job. The forms almost always ask if the employee is, or has been, subject to disciplinary proceedings. This is for lecturer positions. I don’t know how it is in other fields.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 13/12/2024 08:44

Snowpatrolling · 11/12/2024 19:32

I’ve only been in job a few weeks, I had it in my head they could refuse a reference which in itself wouldn’t look good, I can’t leave it off really as new place will need my P45 then I will have to try and explain a 2 month gap in employment, I was already out of work for 3 weeks before I secured this job.
im just panicking; I’m so depressed, nothings gone right since September. :(

Yiu are over-thinking this, you've not been fired, just wait to see what happens. You dont need to give new employer P45, you can fill in an HMRC new starter form

saltysandysea · 13/12/2024 09:09

ive been told it’s procedure and my job is not at risk, I am still in probation.

Ok so you made a mistake and your card is marked. It is not as if you got a disciplinary for theft, harassment etc. Long term focus on your current job, try to make it through probation and take it from there.

LadyAsnowt · 13/12/2024 10:22

Snowpatrolling · 11/12/2024 19:32

I’ve only been in job a few weeks, I had it in my head they could refuse a reference which in itself wouldn’t look good, I can’t leave it off really as new place will need my P45 then I will have to try and explain a 2 month gap in employment, I was already out of work for 3 weeks before I secured this job.
im just panicking; I’m so depressed, nothings gone right since September. :(

Give your last employer (not this one) as a reference, Tell your new employer you've lost your P45. You'll have to fill in a form instead which will go off to the revenue who will then advise the new employer of your tax code. Then they have no need to know about the company you've just left.

HellofromJohnCraven · 13/12/2024 11:07

Stop panicking.
Your employer has said that your job isn't at risk. Therefore it's not gross misconduct or anything. You made a mistake.
Secondly, they will only give a factual reference. Dates of employment, any parental leave taken and so on

Snowpatrolling · 13/12/2024 12:09

Thankyou for all of your comments, to many to reply individually,
doc just waiting on outcome,
I can’t resign as I have no job to go to yet,
I have 2 interviews lined up next week for jobs that I feel will be a better fit for me.’
one employer knows about the disciplinary and laughed and still waned to interview me,
the 2nd I haven’t told but it’s a bigger well known company so not sure how they would react. In my head I was thinking better to be honest as if my current employer refuses a reference I don’t want a job offer withdrawn.
im just panicking as never been on this situation before!
the job with the bigger company is the job i want but ive got a few days to get my head together, find out the outcome of hearing which will be today and go from there.
seems some ask and some don’t. So thinking better to be honest from the get go. X

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