Overtime rates (unfair for part/time workers?

[whatthehellisthisrate]

What do you think about this below
Is it fair?
Is it a common practice in companies?

According to the contract

1.	Overtime is paid at the usual hourly rate for hours worked up to the standard full-time hours of 37.5 hours per week.
2.	Any hours worked beyond 37.5 hours per week are paid at 1.5 times the usual hourly rate (time-and-a-half).

This policy applies to all employees, regardless of whether they are part-time or full-time. However, it effectively means that part-time workers must first work additional hours to meet the full-time threshold before qualifying for the time-and-a-half rate. Full-time workers, on the other hand, earn time-and-a-half as soon as they exceed 37.5 hours in a week.

Fair and normal.
It's not overtime until you have worked a full week.

Who are the overwhelming majority of part-time workers who have to work part-time in the first place?

That's right. Women.

So this is sex discrimination, plain and simple. You should get paid overtime rates if you work beyond your CONTRACTED hours. End of.

It’s the same at my place of work and the part-timers refuse to do any overtime because of it. But it is fair really otherwise part timers could end up being paid more for the same amount of hours.

If overtime is only short term then perhaps it could be ok but at my work there is always overtime available. So it would make more sense to e.g drop to 4 days and do the 5th as overtime on a higher rate. Imagine if everyone started doing that…

We get paid the same rate or slightly less for extra hours via bank, overtime not an option. Amd if you don't get a break on a night shift the additional hour is paid at day not night rates. Overtime with any terms would be lovely!

@whatthehellisthisrate a lot of people forget the EA2010 works both ways so equal pay, sex discrimination etc. mean you need to look at this from the perspective of a full time male employee.

Essentially everyone is paid their hourly rate for hours worked up to full time, in your case 37.5 hours a week. Any hours worked above this are paid at overtime rate, in your case 1.5 hours. However, if the normal working week is Monday to Friday then everyone should get the same hourly rate if they work on a Saturday or Sunday.

That’s how it works for our staff (government). Any hours up until 37 are paid at single rate, and any over 37 then paid overtime. Fair enough in my opinion.

To be fair, when my work offer over time (often double time) it is just an hours above your normal hours.

People have 30/35/40 hour contracts but anyone can get the double time over time. It's not guaranteed though, but we did have it available for nearly 6 months from about feb - end of July.

I can kind of understand that as weekend working in some jobs may not be the norm and therefore the extra pay compensates you for that.

In contrast to retail work where weekend work would be the norm and so no overtime needed.

Of course it's fair. If part time workers need more pay then they just need to work more hours, like their full time counterparts do. I've got no time for delicate little flowers who only want to work part time but want more than the normal hourly pay for doing any more hours. i mean, REALLY!

Otherwise part time staff would earn more than full time workers working the same hours....

@MJMJMJMJ

Your comment is unnecessary and irrelevant to the discussion. I asked for opinions on whether the policy is fair and common practice, not for baseless assumptions about my circumstances.

By the way, I have never claimed UC or any other form of benefit. I also never said I was asking because this is my contract. If you can’t contribute constructively & sensibly it’s best to keep such remarks to yourself.

My work is the same as this and I'm part time. But what was happening was that they needed someone available at night or weekends during unsociable hours. So at 7pm for instance. So I always refused because others would get time and a half and would get nothing extra being salaried. I could understand if it were in Daytime up until 5 for instance but not at 7pm +. My employer agreed and now if I have to work unsociable hours I get the same as others.

Everyone would want to be on a zero hours contact if that was the policy.