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Should I quit my job? Is this fair? Would really love advice.

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Elbie2024 · 08/11/2024 21:02

I joined an education recruitment agency in Jan 2024 as a Compliance Officer, clearing teachers for work, and working alongside recruitment consultants to get them clear and compliant. My job description was compliance duties only, and also some social media which I looked forward to as I had also done this before. I work from home full time, and I am 29 and my salary is 25k per year. I give 150% to everything and sometimes it is my weakness as I forget about myself big time.

In the last 11 months since joining, 5 consultants have left the company due to the difficult nature of the role finding candidates, thus making no placements. Due to this, my role has ramped up (not in the way I wanted), because it has entailed me picking up the pieces. My line manager (who is also the CEO) keeps putting extra work on me which is ultimately benefitting the consultants to make more sales. Additional work I have done includes updating our system with 2000+ direct new business contacts, payroll responbilities, posting job adverts on behalf of the consultants, filtering through CVs, becoming a "point of contact" for our CRM system meaning I have had to learn it back to front, setting up IT for new starters, providing inductions for new starters - all just to start. From my efforts, the new starters have gained some new business due to the new contacts I added onto the system, meaning they will get commission for an action I built the foundations for. Not only all of this, but the compliance is full on as lots of checks need to be done. I am hand holding every new starter and going above and beyond to provide guidance, as my line manager seems to assume that this is part of my job.

The consultants are making between 30-32k per year base salary, plus commission, and I make 25k. The current consultants have ALL worked here less time than me, only joining in the last 3 months. The turnover is ridiculous. My manager has not given me any indication of any potential for growth in the company. She also has recently started recruiting our staff from overseas as she believes the work ethic is better and is very vocal to her opinions on this. Every meeting we have, she always dumps more on me, why should I be punished for this. She makes comments like "I wanted to give this to you because I don't want to bog down the consultants because they're busy enough", insinuating that I am not busy. At the end of every weekly check in, she ends it with "thanks for all you're doing" with complete insincerity, and has no intention of bringing up any effort to recognise how much I have taken on, she knows how much else I have done. I work later, I work through lunch, I forget to eat and drink. It sucks.

I am at the point where I feel like my original compliance role is basically 30% of my day (meaning I have to work later), but so many other roles seem to be added on and on and it puts huge pressure on me. She has no interest or care, she just wants people who "get on with it and dont ask questions" - her words, not mine. She recently looked down on a new recruit as they asked 1 question about their reference and she proceeded to call her "a potential red flag and hope we haven't recruited dead wood'. I have always been someone who is there to help if someone needs me, but I feel like my manager is taking huge advantage of that, and the saying is correct that if you are good at your job, you are rewarded with more work. I attend meetings with the consultants (and myself) who actively say they've worked into the weekends/ and into stupid hours of the night, but she never flinches and makes a comment about how we should focus on our work life balance, no concern about it at all. She just seems like a robot who literally doesn't care about anyone. I don't expect her too, trust me, but should a line manager be worth my time if they are like that...

I just wanted some thoughts from others to see if I am over reacting. I think it's unfair that my salary has not been considered alongside these extensive additional duties, especially because my work has lead to the consultants getting business, so everything I am doing in my job benefits everyone else - except me. The consultants get more but they rely on me SO much it's ridiculous, so why should I be giving 100% when my salary barely covers my ability to comfortably afford a take away after paying all of my bills. I don't know whether to bring my situation up or just find another job.

Side note - One day I would love to have a child, ideally in the next 2 yrs, but I cannot imagine putting myself under so much work strain like this. It cant be like this when that time comes nothing is worth that.

Thank you For any advice anyone can give. Sorry for the long post x

OP posts:
Hoppinggreen · 08/11/2024 21:08

I kind of see your point BUT the Consultants role is one that attracts comission and yours wasn't set up like that. They will have targets and may well get fired for not hitting them, its a high pressure environment.
You are being over worked though and they are taking the P with your hours and responsibilities which you do need to address though

ZippyDoodle · 08/11/2024 21:10

Well, doesn't she sound like a delight to work for?! She's the robot who's raking it in and couldn't care less about anyone else.

You could have a conversation about your role and responsibilities but I doubt it will help. I'm assuming she has high staff turnover?

Just look for another job. Life is too short.

ZippyDoodle · 08/11/2024 21:14

I'd also advise to get your head down for the moment and get on with it until you find something else. I doubt it will end well if you challenge her.

Also, work your hours and take your lunch.

LCK73 · 08/11/2024 21:23

That's a lot you are doing by the sounds of it. I'd start making a list of your examples of adding value, so you can smash a job interview for somewhere else. Secure another job and leave.
You could ask for a review and raise but don't compare your role to the consultants, just outline how you are adding value and state what you'd like to happen.

In meantime, take a lunch break, work your hours.

Next year, £25k will be close to minimum wage in a 40hr job.

Use this experience to get yourself into another role.

TheSandgroper · 09/11/2024 05:07

Start by updating your cv which will give you a clear view of all your new skills.

Then research all the jobs you are now qualified for and their salaries.

Then you can decide to say “Tell me the priority for these tasks”, renegotiate your salary with your extra knowledge or actively look for a new job. Reddit has a mantra that it takes a new job somewhere else to get a pay rise.

daisychain01 · 09/11/2024 07:21

I give 150% to everything and sometimes it is my weakness as I forget about myself big time.

my role has ramped up (not in the way I wanted), because it has entailed me picking up the pieces. My line manager (who is also the CEO) keeps putting extra work on me which is ultimately benefitting the consultants to make more sales.

I work later, I work through lunch, I forget to eat and drink. It sucks.

you need to stop this behaviour, because it doesn't get you anywhere. You need to develop stronger boundaries. Easier said than done. More about that next...

I am at the point where I feel like my original compliance role is basically 30% of my day (meaning I have to work later), but so many other roles seem to be added on and on and it puts huge pressure on me. She has no interest or care, she just wants people who "get on with it and dont ask questions" - her words, not mine.

Yup, sure she doesn't want people who ask questions or challenge her. Why would she, if she can get people who do exactly as ordered, mindlessly.

Onto boundary setting

  1. use your role description from Jan 2024 which you're contractually obliged to deliver on
  2. gather time and motion data for the next month - list of tasks you are doing from (1) above and how long it takes you. List of 'extras' that are being dumped on you and for which you aren't being paid or recognised for;
  3. set up a meeting in your manager's diary for the end of your 1 month timeframe and talk her through the data.
  4. see what her response is. Does she agree with your data and want to either increase your pay and conditions (with a specific timescale to change them eg from 1 Jan 25 you will be paid x and receive y% commission etc) to account for the extra work, or does she deny, push back, tell you to stop arguing and get on with it.

depending on her response, you can make your decision accordingly - to stay and put up with being paid a pittance and being treated like a skivvy, or to be treated and paid better because she accepts your facts and data, or find a new job and learn that if you don't create your own strong boundaries you will continue to be taken advantage of.

daisychain01 · 09/11/2024 07:31

Hoppinggreen · 08/11/2024 21:08

I kind of see your point BUT the Consultants role is one that attracts comission and yours wasn't set up like that. They will have targets and may well get fired for not hitting them, its a high pressure environment.
You are being over worked though and they are taking the P with your hours and responsibilities which you do need to address though

Whilst it's very true that the consultants attract a commission as part of their remuneration package, there's nothing to stop the CEO from converting the OP's package to include a performance related pay element, which works in the basis of eg: volume of new clients entered, volume of recruitment for which the OP has made a contribution to securing. It wouldn't need to be the same % as the consultants, it could be a smaller amount eg: consultants are on 10% commissions, based on their base salary, OP on 3% commission (on their base salary).

it depends how much the CEO values the OP's contributions and is incentivised not to have to go through the process of recruiting and onboarding a replacement, which adds cost to the business.

Sycamoretree4 · 09/11/2024 07:45

I would leave.

Startingagainandagain · 09/11/2024 07:51

25k for a full time job is not a good salary, especially as it sounds like you are doing the workload of several people...

I would start job hunting.

In the meantime approach the CEO to say that you are covering new areas of responsibilities and would like a pay rise. Also stick to your hours from now on while you are looking for something else.

If work does not get done it is because your boss is not hiring enough people to do it...

howshouldibehave · 09/11/2024 07:55

I would leave. Your boss sounds u pleasant, you sound overworked and stressed and the job is low pay.

daisychain01 · 09/11/2024 09:44

November isn't a good time to leave a ft job. Better to work with the employer for now and plan towards Mar/April as a target to hand in your notice.

Definitely address the problem of work overload, that needs to stop. You don't want to be there at Christmas slaving away on client contacts while everyone is out making merry and having fun (which I bet the CEO wouldn't have any hesitation in making you do unless you refuse to do all the extras).

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