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mcmen05 · 01/11/2024 23:31

Financial Controller emailed me today
I'm the Management Accountant his email was when you are sending an email put the persons name as it is considered rude to just type Hi.
His emails come to me with just my name mcmen I find that to be more rude than saying hi, like sometimes one email could me for numerous people so am I supposed to put in the name.
He roared and cursed on phone yesterday saying we have no proper system and I just had to hang up as I really can not handle anyone roaring and cursing.
I just find he is been petty and he's probably annoyed I hung up, we have a new girl in admin everyone working from home and she keeps making errors and very very slow where I have to now do 60 hour week to do some of her work and I find the Financial Controller is piling more onto me and then picking on silly little things trying to make me look stupid. I'm so angry at him that I didn't respond to that email as I would have said words I could not unsay.
My job was to do Management accounts but any time others get behind I have to do their work and then it's just always me having to do it.
I really need this job as it is flexible around my family but it is really stressing me out.

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BlackToes · 02/11/2024 00:33

Personally I’d look for other work.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 02/11/2024 08:58

BlackToes · 02/11/2024 00:33

Personally I’d look for other work.

This

DangerMouseAndPenfoldx · 02/11/2024 09:00

Is he your boss? Was he trying to give you feedback but doing it very badly?

mcmen05 · 02/11/2024 21:48

@DangerMouseAndPenfoldx He is the boss, he wasn't cursing and shouting at me, it was about the admin person but I just hate the tone and cursing.
My question is, do you think it's rude to just put Hi, to start an email, I only do it when there is numerous people in the email.

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Sinkingfeeling952 · 02/11/2024 21:50

Why not say “Hi All”. I would say “Hi All” if emailing multiple people or “Hi Tom” etc when emailing one person. I think it looks a bit rude / slapdash to just say “Hi” but I also think it looks too formal / cold to just say “Tom”

mcmen05 · 02/11/2024 21:52

@Sinkingfeeling952 thanks

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dixon86 · 02/11/2024 21:55

The general manager and director at my work sometimes send emails with just a subject line and no text

I often say Hi or Hello at the beginning of an email and usually don't use the person's name

I guess it depends on how friendly you are with them

If it's a customer I always start with Hello and then their name

PuppyMonkey · 02/11/2024 21:58

Well roaring and cursing doesn’t sound very professional tbf.Grin

Quitelikeit · 02/11/2024 22:02

I would let the email thing go

however I would email
him back and detail how you are working a near 60 hour week due to the new admin persons lack of ability

she clearly hasn’t been trained properly

once my hours were within normal range then I might begin to tackle the email issue

mcmen05 · 03/11/2024 01:20

@Quitelikeit thanks he is well aware of the hours I do just said last week can you bear with us for now.
I have not turned on computer today and not going to tomorrow either fed up been taken for granted.

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MyDarlingWhatIfYouFly · 04/11/2024 10:11

As financial controller it's his responsibility to design a system that works, so he should be roaring at himself.

Finance is a high pressure job - having a rude boss that shouts on the phone makes the job even more stressful and pressured. If you can find another job that pays the bills I would leave - and give some honest feedback in the exit interview.

Singleandproud · 04/11/2024 10:18

I used Hi / Hello /Good morning followed by name / team name if it's a group address or 'all' if going to multiple people of different teams - it takes seconds and not a big deal.

He wants processes and Ways of Working put in place, you want the new hire to be more competent so you don't have to do two jobs so write some guidance to be shared amongst the team of how you do things, it'll take a little time to write up but taking the initiative is not a bad thing

mcmen05 · 04/11/2024 23:35

@Singleandproud i have written up instructions on how admin person should do things but she just does what she wants.
Financial controller is all guns blazing behind her back but doesn't actually do anything about it just knows whatever she doesn't do I'll pick up the slack as I can't finish my work if her work is incomplete.
The more I do the less appreciation I get.

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CreativeMumWriter · 05/11/2024 10:12

Quitelikeit · 02/11/2024 22:02

I would let the email thing go

however I would email
him back and detail how you are working a near 60 hour week due to the new admin persons lack of ability

she clearly hasn’t been trained properly

once my hours were within normal range then I might begin to tackle the email issue

I second this. The frustration coming from a lack of proper training reflects on the entire team.

mcmen05 · 17/01/2025 00:26

Update today
We were having a teams he asked me to email a colleague and I said the operation manager said i confuse people with my email and my boss said yes I actually agree with him you do tend to rant in your emails.
I was very annoyed haven't said anything yet but after the call, I cried my eyes out as I work very hard and wouldn't have to rant if others did their job that feeds into mine.
Everytime someone leaves I get extra work.
Would you address this with your boss that you are annoyed.

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Eatinpeachesonthebeaches · 17/01/2025 09:49

Time to look for another job if he's going to be an idiot.

CornishPorsche · 17/01/2025 09:55

If you write your emails like you write on here, they will be incoherent, yes.

No one, including you, should be "ranting" to colleagues in emails. It's deeply unprofessional.

If you need help with your written correspondence, put yourself on a course.

unbelieveable22 · 17/01/2025 10:27

You need to set boundaries and stick to your job description. Stop working 60 hours a week and learn to say no. Let those who are not doing their work properly, fail. You concentrate on your own role.
They are disrespecting you and using you to disguise their own failings.
If your boss had a problem with you 'ranting' it should have been addressed privately and not during a teams meeting. He is unprofessional.
Time to stand up for yourself.

mcmen05 · 17/01/2025 17:43

Thanks, I sent him a text to explain how he made me feel
He text back I'll ring you Monday I replied why, and he rang immediately he didn't apologize but said he appreciates the work I do. He said he will sort over the weekend a proper plan

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Magamaga · 17/01/2025 17:47

mcmen05 · 17/01/2025 17:43

Thanks, I sent him a text to explain how he made me feel
He text back I'll ring you Monday I replied why, and he rang immediately he didn't apologize but said he appreciates the work I do. He said he will sort over the weekend a proper plan

You told him you were unhappy and he responding by saying lets talk about. That’s a normal response to talk about. What were you expecting him to do about your text?

whaddayawannado · 17/01/2025 18:02

A small piece of advice is needed here I think. I too work in finance, and get perpetually frustrated when others get stuff wrong, fouling up my work.

Always be polite and professional in business emails at all times, no matter how annoyed you are. There is no point in getting pissed off when other people aren't capable of doing their job properly. Either they need further training, and you draw this to the attention of your manager, or they simply aren't good enough at it and no amount of training will help. That problem is also not your problem. If their failure to do accurate work in a timely fashion is directly affecting your ability to do your job, then you calmly inform your manager that X has happened, which has prevented you from doing Y. If X has also caused you to have to work longer hours, then explain that too.

Emails are simple. It is either Hi Jim or Hi All, or for external emails - Sir/Madam.

CornishPorsche · 17/01/2025 18:38

mcmen05 · 17/01/2025 17:43

Thanks, I sent him a text to explain how he made me feel
He text back I'll ring you Monday I replied why, and he rang immediately he didn't apologize but said he appreciates the work I do. He said he will sort over the weekend a proper plan

He obviously wanted to deal with this in work time, and to have time to consider how best to manage it. That's eminently sensible by him.

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