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Could I be sacked over this?

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Sweetiexx · 29/09/2024 14:27

could i be sacked for this?
I work as a cook manager in a school, a child who has an allergy was given a wrong dessert by my kitchen assistant. The child is ok had no reaction.

the school also had another incident regarding this child from the classroom. But the head teacher has said they are going to do an investigation with the governors.

we have had no new information from the school regarding allergies or pictures of the children.
all we had was a teacher come up and pointed this child out. My staff member couldn’t remember the child.
no as the manager could I be sacked because of this?

many thanks

OP posts:
MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 29/09/2024 19:45

Ilovelurchers · 29/09/2024 19:28

Sorry to quote my long post AND a long reply - I can't seem to quote sections on the app.

But yes, to be honest I do agree with you - just asking the school receptionist once in passing would not really cut it - she would ideally have pursued it doggedly and taken it to whoever is in charge of safe guarding if necessary.

There can obviously be issues to do with the culture of the school which can make chasing this sort of thing challenging for staff. If for example a member of SLT or even the head themself told her it was not ready and to stop pestering for it and to just get on, that does put a different complexion on things.

I'm assuming that, though catering manager holds responsibility for allergy catering in the kitchen on a day to day basis, overall accountability for this lies with head of safe guarding and/or the head? It would in places I have worked....

So the question I would be asking, if I was looking into this, is, did the head/head of safeguarding know that the booklet had not been produced yet? I think if OP had made them aware of this and they took no action, then she is a lot less culpable. If they didn't know, then yes it is on her to make them aware that the main safeguarding procedure for protecting allergic students is not currently in place.

Yes, I think we are in agreement.

If she had indeed been told to stop pestering for the booklet and had made the safeguarding lead fully aware of the risks, then short of resigning and/or refusing to serve any food to any children, there wasn't much else that she could do.

However, I'm guessing that the OP would have set out those actions in her previous posts if she had actually taken them. It seems likely to me that she had asked for the book, probably only once, and without putting anything in writing, and having not received it, she was then relying on her staff to remember which children couldn't be given what. And if that is a fair assessment of what happened, it would be in her best interests to accept responsibility and propose revised procedures that would ensure that the incident couldn't be repeated.

Sweetiexx · 29/09/2024 19:54

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I have asked a number of people regarding this booklet, so have my staff too.
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I have asked before about photos and was told we are not allowed them up.

regarding the booklet I spoke to the head on Thursday
her exact words were we are still doing the booklet with all the information. as not ready.

I know my job well and made sure that my staff knew the children that had allergies best to my knowledge.
I automatically though my member of staff knew who they were, I cannot be blamed for human error or through forgetfulness. All my other staff knew who this child was.

the schools systems are beyond a joke, and they are.

again on Thursday, a child came with a teacher, we have never seen this child before and was told they had an allergy and not just one 3 allergies. I had a queue of screaming children telling me what they want and didn’t want for their dinner at the time.
I made the teacher write down the allergies for me and gave her the food.
this is how we are shown a child, at a queue with screaming children.

after reading all your posts I am not going to serve any children with allergies untill I have all their information, pictures, different colour plates, kids in the queue first etc.
its too risky for all of us.

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savoycabbage · 29/09/2024 20:35

When my dd started secondary school (she didn't go to primary in the uk) we had to go in for a meeting with her tutor and the kitchen manager. The kitchen manager was the one who led the meeting. She had never had a child with a peanut allergy before and she asked a lot of questions and took a lot of notes.

She asked if dd could bring a packed lunch for the first day and emailed me in the afternoon of the first day to say everything was OK at her end and dd could start buying her lunch at school and on day two dd said all the lunchtime stagg were saying 'ohh, you must be Jane' and there was an anaphylaxis plan with her photo on it behind the counter.

ZeroFucksGivenToday · 29/09/2024 21:08

You need to go in writing to the school on this.

bullet point you have asked for information about the booklet and were told it's not ready.
bullet point that children with allergies are only identified at lunch etc.

then state that the process is not safe and therefore for children with allergies to be served:

  • the booklet must be available.
  • children's pictures put up on the wall with clear outline of allergies
  • different coloured plates will be available for children with allergies.
without the above from the school children with allergies cannot be served.
Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 15/03/2025 06:26

No.

Noras · 15/03/2025 06:27

My above post is guidance

Noras · 15/03/2025 06:29

Have you done a risk assessment for handling kids with allergies eg refuse to serve kids food until properly identified with a calm meeting - not just a rushed handover during lunch service.

TooManyNiblings · 15/03/2025 06:35

@Noras as this post is 6 months old, I would assume OP has her answer already!!!!!

Waterbaby41 · 15/03/2025 09:59

What do you not understand about being a manager? The buck stops with you. I cannot believe you allowed your kitchen to be run in such a sloppy manner.

Jk987 · 15/03/2025 10:07

The kid didn’t have a reaction so he’s not allergic to that item after all. Isn’t that a good thing?

Tbrh · 15/03/2025 10:28

Sorry haven't RTFT, but given that an allergy could result in death, there needs to be some decent processes in place. Seems the school was lucky this child was OK. I'd assume as the Manager this is your accountability, and even of it isn't perhaps you need to drive this.

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