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Do you have to sign a PIP in Uk?

10 replies

Whyhasitcometothisatwork · 09/09/2024 19:42

Just that really. Am being pressured to sign but I don’t really agree on being put on one. I should be getting my 3rd rewrite soon to make it measurable but I think the things being suggested were not something that was raised as an issue and is managed by another part of the business. We have loads of shenanigans at work - people being asked to retire, made redundant etc and I think I’m being managed out.

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JudyJulie · 09/09/2024 19:49

What does PIP stand for in this context please?

Saschka · 09/09/2024 19:56

Personal improvement plan - it’s a disciplinary measure. Usually a precursor to being sacked.

Tiredofthewhirring · 09/09/2024 20:00

Are you private or public sector and how long have you been employed?

Whyhasitcometothisatwork · 09/09/2024 20:11

over 2 years. Private

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Whyhasitcometothisatwork · 09/09/2024 21:02

Anyone ?

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Sunset54 · 10/09/2024 07:11

@Whyhasitcometothisatwork if you don’t agree with it I’d be reluctant to sign anything. If it looks like they’re trying to manage you out you may have grounds to push for a settlement. Once you sign you’re saying you agree with it. Maybe delay by saying you need some time to consider it and take advice.
Have they any legitimate reason to put you on a PIP? Have they discussed issues with you previously and put in place measures to correct them? Have they followed all company policy?
If no to any of those it may be worth speaking to an employment solicitor (I personally found ACAS hopeless but people recommend you call in this situation). Some solicitors offer no win no fee and a free 30 minute consultation.

Tiredofthewhirring · 10/09/2024 07:16

Signing it or not is a red herring. You need to document evidence that the grounds for the pip are unfair.

But honestly, as long as they go through a process the chances are what they are doing is perfectly legal.

Whyhasitcometothisatwork · 10/09/2024 08:34

I’ve been thinking carefully about the content for nearly 6 weeks and first review is supposed to in 2 weeks. They want to sit down with HR to make the PIP effective but I don’t agree with being put on a PIP. I know a colleague has as well - so it all seems pretty Sus. They are modifying content on it a 3rd time as it’s so woolly in an effort that I agree with it. Our system says to acknowledge so I’m concerned they were so deliberate to say it needs signed

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BarbaraWoodlouse · 10/09/2024 09:42

You need to be clear headed here and work out what your realistic options and best outcome is here. ACAS or some initial legal advice could help.

You could engage with the PIP process, deliver against their measures, agree 100% they need to be clear and measurable, which if nothing else buys you some time. I’d suspect they can proceed with or without your signature if otherwise “agreed” but I’m not a lawyer. In most cases however this becomes about getting the best package (a settlement agreement) to go quietly and cleanly.

Kicking against their decision to do this at all or stressing about what is “fair” is wasted energy. Look at it objectively (this board can be great for that), stay calm and document everything!

RechargeableGnu · 11/09/2024 12:48

You don't have to sign it, but it will go ahead.

Just make sure it's as SMART as it can be for you to achieve it.

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