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What’s your household income if you are sending 2+ kids to private schools?

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Anon22224 · 20/08/2024 18:57

Just as the title really, we are considering number 3, 1st child currently attends a small private primary due to SEN, we’d like to be able to send DC2 aswell if it would suit her.

This particular school is fairly reasonable but the secondary schools are much more expensive and I was just wondering what a household income looks like where this is a comfortable option.

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olivecapes · 21/08/2024 08:23

Send to state and pay for some tutoring, extra courses and out of school educational nourishment if it’s a problem

Completely agree with this, and/or manuring yourself next to good state schools. 3 children are a huge expense, and I personally think if finances are limited, experiences outside education like holidays, extra curriculars are more important (if balanced with a good state education) and you can supplement with tutoring etc if needed.

olivecapes · 21/08/2024 08:24

Manoeuvring, not manuring obvs....Blush

itsgettingweird · 21/08/2024 08:29

Nanana1 · 21/08/2024 07:27

Isn’t is hard to move for 6th form re friendships?

Edited

I guess it's area dependent.

Where I live we have 1 school that has a 6th form.

None of the private schools have 6th form - some are just prep and end in year 9.

So it's perfectly normal for all pupils in any school to move for year 12.

We do have some excellent state colleges though.

TheaBrandt · 21/08/2024 08:35

Anecdotally entirely normal to move at 6th form here many kids want a change. Lots of private to state movement at 6th form.

ViciousCurrentBun · 21/08/2024 08:44

My friend taught at a small independent school. It shut with almost no warning a couple of years ago, her DD was also a pupil with reduced fees so she had to scrabble for a job and a new school. I wonder just how at risk some of the small schools will be in the future with VAT added.

CautiousLurker · 21/08/2024 08:59

Anon22224 · 20/08/2024 19:10

Thanks we are south east and have a large mortgage, I’m part time and fairly low paid in HC but DH earns £300 ish, we’ve done the sums obviously and on paper it would just about work but we’d have to really tighten down on other things like holidays so just wondered what others think is reasonable earrings to be comfortable with that outlay

This describes us. Just be very wary that when you start in jnr school, the annual fees (before VAT was added into the frame) seems to only be a ‘small’ uplift from FT nursery fees (£1.5-2k pcm). We had two, 3 years apart. It seemed worth it because they could stay until 6pm. We’re moving my youngest, now 16, to a state 6th form (though it is a boarding 6th form) but, had we stayed, fees would have leapt to about £28k as a day pupil.

The boarding fees at the state 6th form are around £18k, and not subject to VAT, so a huge relief. Money was not the driver, my DS wanted to board and develop independence (has ASD), but DH and I are now thinking we can finally afford/justify a couple of adult-only annual breaks! Yay!

For us, although on paper affluent, we have a very large mortgage and volatility in DH’s industry has meant that we have financially planned on the very cautious side - although we have a luxury holiday every year and drive very nice cars, we have squirrelled everything else away to make sure there was always a cache of money to cover the kids education until 18 should he be made redundant and accrued savings so that in that event the mortgage can be paid off immediately.

We haven’t saved for uni, deciding that student loans are perfectly fine, we can afford to top up (will have to due to DC not being eligible for full maintenance grants), but feel that money will be available in time to settle their student debts (inheritance from GPs, equity release from the family home when we downsize etc). One plans on med school, so should be perfectly able to meet the monthly repayment costs of the loan anyway!

In the end whether we justify it is based on the kids experience - both mine are ASD/ADHD but academically high functioning. Being in a school with small classes meant they were able to made closer friendship bods, the teachers really go to know them and were better able to support them. They were both privileged with being in a pretty idyllic physical setting - 135 acres, woods they could hang out int, ride bikes etc, a stunning historic main house, state of the art theatres. The demographic is very mixed and more multi-cultural than the local state schools - from A listers from the telly to builders/plumbers, US sports stars/coaches and boring professionals like DH and me, plus people boarding from several continents.

Their understanding of the larger world, and their confidence of their place and worthiness within it, has grown because of it. It was not an academically selective school, so although my kids are grade A students, they have friends who are dancers, sporty, musical who will go down completely different paths, which means that although they value their academic educations, they value and respect the range of educational and life paths their friends (and their parents) have gone down. For us, the investment has been worth every penny because they have both turned into pretty lovely, caring and compassionate people.

[NB not getting into the debate about the relative merits of state schools in achieving this. Both DH and I are state educated. The thread is about whether it is worthwhile considering private school if you can afford it.]

CautiousLurker · 21/08/2024 09:00

@Anon22224 sorry that was a long post. Am ADHD too, so tend to over-explain!

morechocolateneededtoday · 21/08/2024 09:08

Joint income is under £200k, we have 2 in prep school which we chose predominantly for comprehensive wraparound care as the local state school offerings were non-existent. Mortgage isn't as high as most have posted on here but we do still have a while left to pay off.

Secondary is more than double what we currently pay - and that is before considering VAT. We are going into state sector for secondary, have already moved house to guarantee a place in an excellent one. I will reduce my hours but we will be much better off without the fees

Charlie2121 · 21/08/2024 09:13

I earn 200k and have no mortgage. I have one DS who I intend to send to private school for the full 14 years.

It I had 2 children I’m not sure I’d be able to afford it comfortably in part because as an older parent I do not intend on working when my DS is in his senior school years meaning I have to effectively pay/save double fees now as I need to fund the full 14 years out of the next 7 years of salary.

I planned to have my mortgage paid off before having a child for this very reason and it has worked out pretty well in part down to good fortune of never having to pay an interest rate above 1.5% on my mortgage making it easy to clear quite quickly.

Appleblum · 21/08/2024 09:17

In London and with your mortgage I'd want upwards of 400k to send 2 kids to private school and still have a good standard of living with savings for the future. The fees will only increase.

Anon22224 · 21/08/2024 12:41

CautiousLurker · 21/08/2024 09:00

@Anon22224 sorry that was a long post. Am ADHD too, so tend to over-explain!

Very helpful thanks so much!

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CaveMum · 21/08/2024 15:16

Nanana1 · 21/08/2024 07:27

Isn’t is hard to move for 6th form re friendships?

Edited

In our area none of the state secondary schools offer A levels so everyone has to move if they want to do them. There are 3 or 4 big Sixth Forms around here (taking about 1000 pupils each, each year) so most students are in the same boat of moving on and changing friendships.

Lemonbalm8 · 21/08/2024 16:47

CautiousLurker · 21/08/2024 08:59

This describes us. Just be very wary that when you start in jnr school, the annual fees (before VAT was added into the frame) seems to only be a ‘small’ uplift from FT nursery fees (£1.5-2k pcm). We had two, 3 years apart. It seemed worth it because they could stay until 6pm. We’re moving my youngest, now 16, to a state 6th form (though it is a boarding 6th form) but, had we stayed, fees would have leapt to about £28k as a day pupil.

The boarding fees at the state 6th form are around £18k, and not subject to VAT, so a huge relief. Money was not the driver, my DS wanted to board and develop independence (has ASD), but DH and I are now thinking we can finally afford/justify a couple of adult-only annual breaks! Yay!

For us, although on paper affluent, we have a very large mortgage and volatility in DH’s industry has meant that we have financially planned on the very cautious side - although we have a luxury holiday every year and drive very nice cars, we have squirrelled everything else away to make sure there was always a cache of money to cover the kids education until 18 should he be made redundant and accrued savings so that in that event the mortgage can be paid off immediately.

We haven’t saved for uni, deciding that student loans are perfectly fine, we can afford to top up (will have to due to DC not being eligible for full maintenance grants), but feel that money will be available in time to settle their student debts (inheritance from GPs, equity release from the family home when we downsize etc). One plans on med school, so should be perfectly able to meet the monthly repayment costs of the loan anyway!

In the end whether we justify it is based on the kids experience - both mine are ASD/ADHD but academically high functioning. Being in a school with small classes meant they were able to made closer friendship bods, the teachers really go to know them and were better able to support them. They were both privileged with being in a pretty idyllic physical setting - 135 acres, woods they could hang out int, ride bikes etc, a stunning historic main house, state of the art theatres. The demographic is very mixed and more multi-cultural than the local state schools - from A listers from the telly to builders/plumbers, US sports stars/coaches and boring professionals like DH and me, plus people boarding from several continents.

Their understanding of the larger world, and their confidence of their place and worthiness within it, has grown because of it. It was not an academically selective school, so although my kids are grade A students, they have friends who are dancers, sporty, musical who will go down completely different paths, which means that although they value their academic educations, they value and respect the range of educational and life paths their friends (and their parents) have gone down. For us, the investment has been worth every penny because they have both turned into pretty lovely, caring and compassionate people.

[NB not getting into the debate about the relative merits of state schools in achieving this. Both DH and I are state educated. The thread is about whether it is worthwhile considering private school if you can afford it.]

This was so useful to hear. Thank you for sharing. We are only in the beginning of the journey, and so far from what you have achieved, but I also have the mentality of doing the best I can now and hoping the money will materialize at the right time (e.g. your thinking around uni funding)

Lemonbalm8 · 21/08/2024 16:49

Appleblum · 21/08/2024 09:17

In London and with your mortgage I'd want upwards of 400k to send 2 kids to private school and still have a good standard of living with savings for the future. The fees will only increase.

That was exactly what I had thought. 400k. It's insane when you think about it isn't it

Fuzzyduck21 · 22/08/2024 16:42

We have joint income of around £110k - £120k but mortgage is lower than I've seen on this thread at around £1000pm. Our fees are approx £15k per year for each child. We aren't big spenders though and my husbands earnings rise year on year. Beware of the VAT that is about to be applied to school fees as this could increase your fees by 20% so make sure you factor that in. Paying for private school is the best money I've ever spent (but we only have a 'Good' state school to compare it with that, in our opinion, was far from good).

Heatherbell1978 · 23/08/2024 11:59

Household income of £165k and DS is about to start for P6 (age 10). DD will follow for secondary (age 12). We can comfortably pay DS from income. Have some savings to help in the years where both will be there together (3 years).
Have a mortgage of £1.4k a month. We're in Scotland where fees are a bit lower than South. We run one car and have an annual holiday budget of around £8k.
I'm not sure how helpful these threads are because you'll inevitably get the people saying they can't afford it on a joint income of £300k. They can, they just choose to live in a big house with a large mortgage, run expensive cars and holiday 4 times a year. I remember seeing something on one of these threads where a poster said she couldn't afford it because of her £4K a month pension contribution.

Ozanj · 23/08/2024 12:04

We’re on 180ish now and send one child comfortably with the ability to save as much as we pay on his fees a month. A second would be a stretch but doable. We’d just be relying on bonuses for holidays/cars.

eurochick · 23/08/2024 16:51

We only have one child so one set of fees. I'm self-employed so my income fluctuates significantly from year to year. On years when our joint income is north of £300k it feels comfortable. Under £250k it feels tight with around 70% of our net income going on mortgage plus school fees plus wrap around care. The other 30% is mostly swallowed up by other household bills not leaving a lot of fun/holiday money. We are in the SE so housing costs are high.

Chatonette · 23/08/2024 16:55

Anon22224 · 20/08/2024 20:49

Mortgage is £3600, £100k of that 300 is also bonus dependent so really I should say 200!! Bonus has been consistent though.

Take points on DH job, I do worry about this but he’s in quite a stable industry

I would be happy for state secondary more so than DH, I’d like to send others to state primary too to make things fair really. We both went to state schools and were very happy but DD1 definitely will benefit from a smaller class probably through education

Good to hear others situations thank you!

Our combined salaries and bonuses are a bit higher than yours, our mortgage is under £600, and we can’t afford to send our two to private.

Lemonbalm8 · 23/08/2024 17:10

Chatonette · 23/08/2024 16:55

Our combined salaries and bonuses are a bit higher than yours, our mortgage is under £600, and we can’t afford to send our two to private.

How? 🙂

Chatonette · 23/08/2024 17:30

Lemonbalm8 · 23/08/2024 17:10

How? 🙂

High taxation on income. The big outgoings are: high council tax (our council is one of the highest in the country), saving for university, and upkeep/maintenance on a large-ish Victorian property.

Lemonbalm8 · 23/08/2024 17:33

Chatonette · 23/08/2024 17:30

High taxation on income. The big outgoings are: high council tax (our council is one of the highest in the country), saving for university, and upkeep/maintenance on a large-ish Victorian property.

Do you have good primary and secondary schools at least?

Chatonette · 23/08/2024 17:34

Lemonbalm8 · 23/08/2024 17:33

Do you have good primary and secondary schools at least?

Yes

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