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Negotiating for more pay.

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Bobbins · 12/12/2002 13:09

I have been in my job in attachment capacity since February. This means I have just been receiving minimal acting pay. I work for the BBC as a supervisor (12 strong department). After tomorrow I will eventually be offered the job as a permanent position (I have an informal interview arranged, but I am the only candidate). I have never been in a position to negotiate for more pay and I don't really know how to go about it. I don't want to bring it up at the interview really. Should I speak to my Manager, put it in writing, or what? How much should I ask for, the maximum for my scale? Should I see if there can be some way that I will reach the maximum pay for my scale within a specified period?

Any advice welcomed.

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WideWebWitch · 12/12/2002 13:20

Bobbins, it sounds as if they want to offer you the job and you want it so that's all good. At the interview I think it's reasonable to ask about pay for the position. You could say something like "As you know, I've been receiving the acting pay rate but please could you tell me what salary you will be offering to the person who takes the position on a permanent basis?" (if you want to be coy and not admit that you both know you'll get the job). If they say the same salary as you're getting now, you could say that you were expecting £xxxx because of the pay scale/experience/every other reason you think should be considered. You could say something like "Oh I assumed this would be at the rate of £xxx since the job falls within this pay scale and I think I have the experience and qualifications to qualify for this" Or, if you don't have the experience or whatever, you could ask at what stage they would usually expect someone to receive the maximum for that scale. This will at least give you an idea of what you have to do to qualify.

They may say it's for discussion if and when you're offered the job but I don't think there's any harm in bringing it up at interview in your situation. I wouldn't bring it up in a first interview normally but I think it's different since you're already doing the job. Good luck, let us know how you get on.

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Bobbins · 12/12/2002 15:31

Thanks www!

My problem is I hate talking about money, and don't really have any experience of it. My parents didn't really either as they were both in academia, so I'm a bit lost. I know the personnel people here don't like talking money in interviews, so I'll feel my way tomorrow and see how it pans out. I might approach it by asking about grades for my department, and see how that goes down.

This interview is just a formality though, part of BBC policy. My Manager tried to get round it but HR say nay. Oh well unless I bugger up outrageously at least I know its in the bag. I hate being interviewed.

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prufrock · 12/12/2002 16:35

Bobbins - just think how much you hate interviewing people as well - the person interviewing you probably feels just as nervous. If you do get round to speaking about pay, make sure you emphasise that you deserve the amount you are asking for - not taht you need it

sis · 12/12/2002 17:16

as my mum says, if you don't ask, you won't get...

I think it is important to sit down and make a note of why you deserve more money and put that across concisely in a meeting with management if they do not mention money at the interview.

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Bobbins · 13/12/2002 11:35

Well, I got the job!

I asked about the scales of pay, and they have agreed to a preliminary raise (not much), but this will be reviewed at yearly appraisals and they are also going to do some research and assess my position on some 'blah blah ...penny scale'. I'm not sure of its proper name, but it means they look closely at the amount of responsibility the job entails.

I'm off to celebrate this afternoon. Its our work do, and we are going to Loch Fyne restaurant...and the booze is free! Hoorah, dread to think how I'll be by 6pm.

Thanks for the advice!!!

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prufrock · 13/12/2002 11:36

Hurray - well done you.

WideWebWitch · 13/12/2002 11:51

brilliant!

sis · 13/12/2002 12:34

congratulations!!!

Batters · 13/12/2002 23:16

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Bobbins · 14/12/2002 08:37

Eugh....morning after. Still feel chuffed that I got the job but I WISH I hadn't drunk QUITE so much. Loch Fyne was really lovely...I know its a chain restaurant, but it was really good food. I had mussels and gressingham duck (with plum & chestnuts....GORGE...ous) I should be doing chrimble shopping today, but I feel like just hiding in a darkened room.

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Tinker · 14/12/2002 14:13

Bobbins - well done! A do with free booze??? Now that is an organisation worth working for, regardless of the level of pay

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