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Problems with manager

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RichTea90 · 01/08/2024 06:40

Hi, I work a remote job - and have worked for the same company for the past two years. I was assigned a new manager earlier this year. Initially, we seemed to get on fairly well, but then she began micro-managing me which I found stressful. In our meetings, she would regularly call me by the wrong name but quickly correct herself, she’s done this consistently in over 3 of our meetings I would say.
I unfortunately have had two bouts of sickness (one in May, one in June) due to two separate flus/bugs. The most recent one being particularly severe and has taken me a good 4 weeks to fully recover from. My manager suggested, in our last meeting, that it was stress related. Don’t get me wrong, I know stress doesn’t help your immune system, but I caught this bug from my partner at home as he had it first - that is unfortunate and can’t be helped. She said she would need to speak to HR as we may need a formal meeting due to it triggering my first sickness warning - fine. I can accept that, if that’s the procedure. Nothing I can do about that.
later in the meeting, she went thru my stats, incorrectly feeding them back to me, and a bit of an argument ensued, it then led to me bursting into tears. She carried on talking at me about data, but I said to her I’m in no fit state to continue this call, I’m going to leave the meeting now.

I’ve since handed in my notice - I’ve been offered a new job elsewhere. She’s been so blunt with me, and no check in to see how I’m doing following me bursting into tears.

Do you feel like she’s failing in her duty of care here? I feel it’s very subtle, subtle bullying going on but I don’t know. Due to be meeting her again today, and I feel so on edge and nervous. I feel she owes me an apology, doubtful I’ll get one.

Any advice on this situation? I considered raising a grievance but I’m leaving now so I’m not sure there’s any point… still have to work there for another 5/6 weeks though

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Shuzzazall · 08/08/2024 07:21

Micro-management and the associated stress is known to lower immune response - sounds awful.

I would personally not raise a grievance but make clear your reasons for leaving as part of a formal letter to their superior CC HR so that it is on file and if anyone else was in the same boat there is evidence.

You could also consider giving this person direct feedback as they may be completely unaware of their impact.

Then put it all behind you and shut the door!
good luck in new role!

Motheranddaughter · 08/08/2024 07:30

Just move on

MaJoady · 08/08/2024 07:43

RichTea90 · 07/08/2024 07:29

I haven’t had 4 weeks off with a bug.

In May, I took a week off due to flu and in July, I took 3 days off as I lost my voice and was really unwell (I think I had COVID).

So you were working when ill? Did that affect your performance? If you go into work and say you're well enough to work when you're not, then surely your manager has to raise the potential performance issues as a result, especially as it was over the course of a month not just a few days?

I get that you don't like your manager. And she doesn't sound amazing, but I think your dislike is clouding things a bit tbh

Thefreckledone · 08/08/2024 16:14

My old manager was like this,huge micromanager, several times she would call me and be rather negative and very confrontational on the calls, abit of a bully. I feel she only did this because there was no proof, it was my word against hers as it was a Skype call. I should have recorded her really. She was nice as pie if we were in the office and her manager was there. It got so bad If I’d not been a contractor I would have put in a grievance. I left in the end for a new job.

Sorry your manager is also a bad one. I would put in a grievance even if you are leaving, it might help stop her doing it to someone else.

RichTea90 · 09/08/2024 02:30

MaJoady · 08/08/2024 07:43

So you were working when ill? Did that affect your performance? If you go into work and say you're well enough to work when you're not, then surely your manager has to raise the potential performance issues as a result, especially as it was over the course of a month not just a few days?

I get that you don't like your manager. And she doesn't sound amazing, but I think your dislike is clouding things a bit tbh

No, I was not working whilst ill. I am a strong believer that you should take the necessary time off before returning to work, I unfortunately caught what I think was COVID from my partner the second time as he’d just come back from a festival.

The so called “performance” issues are related to the system not calculating our “utilisation” correctly. Like I have said, I was off for a week in May due to flu (very common, and usual to experience this at least once a year) and the second time in July for 3 days due to COVID where I lost my voice. This was also following moving house where I had booked off the Friday & Monday so I could move. Though I was really poorly on the Monday (meant to be annual leave) and returned to work on the Thursday. I exceeded my target for the Thursday & Friday that I was in, though my manager told me that I had only achieved 45% for that week!

I work as a mental health practitioner so I cannot work without my voice. I’m also hybrid and one of those days I was due in the clinic but I had a temperature and was coughing/sneezing - hardly professional to go in and risk passing to patients.

As a result of my sickness, my manager feedback that I was under my target, however I explained the reason for this was due to illness and the system wasn’t reflecting this. I cannot help being unwell, and I’m not someone who exaggerates. Believe it or not, I enjoy my job and working - I don’t like it when it’s implied otherwise. My manager showed no compassion about my sickness, and couldn’t seem to take on board my comments about the utilisation score not reflecting my time off from work - so kind of a double whammy.

anyway, I’m leaving now and I’m super glad. I don’t wish to work for an organisation or under a manager like this. Life is too short.

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Timinfuckingruislip · 09/08/2024 13:09

RichTea90 · 09/08/2024 02:30

No, I was not working whilst ill. I am a strong believer that you should take the necessary time off before returning to work, I unfortunately caught what I think was COVID from my partner the second time as he’d just come back from a festival.

The so called “performance” issues are related to the system not calculating our “utilisation” correctly. Like I have said, I was off for a week in May due to flu (very common, and usual to experience this at least once a year) and the second time in July for 3 days due to COVID where I lost my voice. This was also following moving house where I had booked off the Friday & Monday so I could move. Though I was really poorly on the Monday (meant to be annual leave) and returned to work on the Thursday. I exceeded my target for the Thursday & Friday that I was in, though my manager told me that I had only achieved 45% for that week!

I work as a mental health practitioner so I cannot work without my voice. I’m also hybrid and one of those days I was due in the clinic but I had a temperature and was coughing/sneezing - hardly professional to go in and risk passing to patients.

As a result of my sickness, my manager feedback that I was under my target, however I explained the reason for this was due to illness and the system wasn’t reflecting this. I cannot help being unwell, and I’m not someone who exaggerates. Believe it or not, I enjoy my job and working - I don’t like it when it’s implied otherwise. My manager showed no compassion about my sickness, and couldn’t seem to take on board my comments about the utilisation score not reflecting my time off from work - so kind of a double whammy.

anyway, I’m leaving now and I’m super glad. I don’t wish to work for an organisation or under a manager like this. Life is too short.

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Surely though if this is the way the “system” is setup - then it’s the same for everyone (e.g anyone who has a day off sick will come in under target for that week)?

RichTea90 · 10/08/2024 19:49

Timinfuckingruislip · 09/08/2024 13:09

Surely though if this is the way the “system” is setup - then it’s the same for everyone (e.g anyone who has a day off sick will come in under target for that week)?

Yep, it’s true - I’ve spoken to others and they have the same. It’s a huge flaw with their “system.” You have practitioners overbooking themselves to make up for it, but I refuse to do that so I can protect myself from burn out…

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