Sick of probation.

[whatisforteamum]

Just a rant really.
In two yrs this is my second probationary period.
First one was dreadful, surprised I was offered the job.Stayed for 18 months in a toxic environment.
Current one fantastic place my ideal role.
It's been mentioned a couple of times im on probation.
I'm reliable enthusiastic and a bit opinionated.I do go full force on projects.
The head of department has been on very long term sick due to an accident.
Now they are due back and I've been told there is enough work for me.
Clients, colleagues and outsiders have praised me yet I feel over 35 yrs working 3 months probation is a long time especially when you can let staff go within 2 yrs anyway.
Bit stressed I may have been used instead of a temp.
Rant over.

Honestly I think 3 months probation is quite short! It’s 12 months at my place of work

Isn't probation pointless anyway? We only earn rights after 2 years.

Probation is five years where I work, for my staff category.

Clearly mine is a junior role after qualifying.
I just hate this hanging over me when you have no rights before 2 yrs anyway.
The only benefit is less notice to leave or be let go.

It's 6 months where I work. 3 months is pretty standard isn't it?

It’s 6 months here, I’ve done 2 and it’s going achingly slow! We are not allowed any wfh until 6 months so I am dragging myself to an empty office and really demoralised.
what’s the part that’s frustrating you, that you can’t do proper work until after probation? I do empathise with your impatience, I’m 40 and career changing and just want to get a move on but keep telling myself I have to play the game!

I think if you are doing well then why worry about probation.
Are you having reviews ?
Why do you think they have used you instead of a temp ?
Majority of probation are 6 months which is long enough if there are issues to give tune to improve.
I honestly wouldnt worry if you feel you are doing well and they are feeding that back.

I remember when I first started in the Civil Service, my manager at the time forgot my probation confirmation until a year after I'd started, so I figured I'd probably passed . I ended up typing out my own Probation letter, emailing it to my manager who emailed it back and said well done you're in! Ridiculous beaurocracy really.

probation is only worth the paper it's written on if the company takes in seriously, does all the ceremonial dah-dahhh here's your employment confirmation letter you've passed! It's entirely their choice whether they bother with it at all. It isn't a statutory requirement.

It tended to be a bribe back in the day, "you'll only get xyz benefit if you pass promotion". It saved them on admin, enrolling a new recruit into a BUPA scheme only to find out the employee wasn't performing, so they tied it in with their probation period instead. This was also true re:pension scheme, but now that it's a legal requirement for all staff to be in a contributory pension scheme, there isn't that enticement anymore,

Probation can be as long as they want, but statutory 2 year employment rights trump whatever ridiculous length of time they put on it.

5 years to work out if the employee can do their job?. That's ludicrous,

Probation is pointless, means very little legally - we go for 3 months too (it's mostly to avoid absolute disasters) but it's not long enough to really judge - a member of the team passed probation but he was really not up to the job, despite loads of support, they couldn't grasp what they were supposed to be doing - the more junior members of the team were miles ahead of them - they resigned after a year has they not resigned, they'd have been asked to leave.

That's what I mean snoring.I understand when an employee is fresh out of school so time keeping reliability etc.
When you're nearer 60 with and full CV and references it seems like a game I'm fed up of playing.

Daisychain01 🤣🤣

We can't offer different terms to people who are nearly 60 - that's age discrimination - goes both ways!

I think 3 months is pretty standard. Personally, I like the chance to see whether the company is a good fit and the job is actually what they said it was; with the freedom to quit with a short notice period if it doesn't work out.

C125 true.