Raise a grievance with an ex employer?!

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Hi all,

Just wondering if you're allowed to raise a grievance with an ex employer after being dismissed?! The entire process has been extremely lengthy no timelines were adhered to with no reasonable excuse for a delay. Can I still raise a grievance over how I've been treated even after being dismissed? (Unfairly!)

and if you’re honest OP

then…. what’s the big deal about them identifying you?

My advice would be try and do the work yourself rather than contact a solicitor. The employment tribunal is set up for litigants in person and especially the early stages (preliminary hearings) the judges will help you to organise your claim.

Could any other factor have been at play for example, your age, sex, disability? Because then you maybe have a discrimination claim.

Contact ACAS asap for some advice on the processes.

I mean I guess I could go into it but it's extremely long.. so in short basically I work in education and since I put in a formal complaint against one of the directors (mid jan!) they have put multiple allegations on me. Was literally told 4 days after the complaint that I was facing disciplinary action. At the same time they informed me of the disciplinary investigation I was asked if I would accept mediation with the director. I agreed to do so a few days later (end of Jan) and chased on a few occasions but it never happened. Now after months of asking for a hearing date as well as a mediation date they finally gave me a hearing date (not before trying to find enough to put on me to dismiss - which is still ridiculous things anyway which does not breach any policies besides perhaps 1 but minor) but never sorted out meditation and I know this is because they planned to fire me anyway so put if off knowing it would never have to happen!

You may have a case for constructive dismissal then, if you think that they deliberately elbowed you out.

Bump

why have you bumped?
as has been said, without the detail, no advice really

oh i’m sorry just seen you have

ok… i am reading now..

has hr been involved?

you were working there throughout?

I would contact ACAS on Monday and they will talk through your options with you.

If you intend to challenge them either through an appeal or tribunal gather as much evidence as you can before you lose access to everything.

Good luck.

@quickoffthemark yes HR has been involved - we only have 1 member of staff in HR as all the team left when the head of HR job was given to somebody with zero HR qualifications (friend of CEO) they are dreadful and have no idea what they are doing! I was in work right up until the final allegation (went to the initial hearing and they told me they were adjourning it instead) - that I had been discussing the ongoing investigation and suspended me instead. Now this is an element of truth in this I will admit but only very briefly and everybody involved in the investigation has been talking about it the entire time (witnesses even admitted this at the hearing but they have not been investigated or sanctioned!) it was evident that they did not have enough information to dismiss at the initial hearing so went around seeking people out for anything they could find on me.

You need to appeal your dismissal. If you feel you’ve been unfairly dismissed also see an employment lawyer. You need to appeal though and conclude their internal process.

i’m confused with all the talk of the initial hearing and witnesses

So this went to court?

“they” told you they were adjourning it

who?

OP mumsnet is not going to be able to help you on the basis of what you have provided re the circumstances

Contact ACAS and / or a solicitor

To your original question "can I submit a grievance after I have been fired", the answer is, you can and should formally submit an appeal against your dismissal and give your reasons why you don't accept their accusation, and don't agree with how they have approached it.

what are they doing about your final pay? What notice is in your contract? Are you owed any holiday pay? If it was summary dismissal, ie clear your desk and leave, you need to engage with a solicitor to get to the bottom of that action and your legal rights which depend on their accusation and the allegation they are levelling against you.

You're telling us they went round trying to "dig the dirt" on you, but your solicitor needs to know the full facts, what dirt they were trying to dig.