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Have you ever coasted and gotten away with it?

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foreverhidden · 07/07/2024 11:53

I'm curious to know if coasters are as obvious as we think, or if anyone out there has been a closet coaster and actually gotten away with it.

Ie have you coasted but still managed to gain good performance reviews and not been pulled up on it. If so, how long for.

If you've been caught, how long did you coast for? What was the process once you were caught.

I've seen so many people in my company who I knew coasted, get caught up with eventually. Wondering if there are some getting away with it all the same.

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Bear0511 · 07/07/2024 19:29

No one can or should be giving 100% to anything all of the time. Whether it be a job, relationship, parenting, or anything else. It’s a sure fire way of burning out very quickly.

Generally, most people give somewhere between 50-70% the majority of the time. Sometimes that may drop to 20%, and other times we will up to 100% when needed. Not even people in very complex jobs are capable of giving 100% day in, day out. A surgeon will (hopefully!) give 100% when operating on someone, but are they giving 100% during their office and admin hours? Of course not!

anyone who says that they give anything 100%, all of the time, is either a) lying or b) a martyr who will burn themselves out completely very soon, and won’t be thanked for it.

Shannith · 07/07/2024 19:30

OttersAreMySpiritAnimal · 07/07/2024 12:50

I know someone who looks busy all the time but in fact does FA. They network a lot, post on internal and external social media a lot and are very gregarious and outgoing. Does absolutely no work at all but is very successful and highly thought of because they give the impression of being committed and working hard. Any deliverables have 100% been done by the team but this person claims credit and says they've done their bit when they haven't.
The whole department know it, it's just the bosses who don't. We're all quietly waiting to see what happens long term. I also think no-one really cares that much as it's not putting extra burden on the team and they benefit from the profile raising and recognise the value in that, so it's a detached watching and waiting with mild interest.

I have just let go my company's version of this. Everyone knew. But he was actually causing low morale because it looked like we (the bosses) didn't and he kept claiming the work/ideas of genuinely hard working talented people.

Ineedanewsofa · 07/07/2024 19:32

@foreverhidden at 20 years into a career you are (hopefully) being paid for your knowledge and experience as much as your output, which from the outside might look like coasting as you’ll be able to achieve the same as those with less experience in half the time. I’m in a role now that is well within my comfort zone so I don’t have to do the extra to perform well. 10 years ago this role would have been a massive challenge and I’d have had to work all the hours to keep up.

foreverhidden · 07/07/2024 19:37

Ineedanewsofa · 07/07/2024 19:32

@foreverhidden at 20 years into a career you are (hopefully) being paid for your knowledge and experience as much as your output, which from the outside might look like coasting as you’ll be able to achieve the same as those with less experience in half the time. I’m in a role now that is well within my comfort zone so I don’t have to do the extra to perform well. 10 years ago this role would have been a massive challenge and I’d have had to work all the hours to keep up.

I've had a theory for a while, the more senior you are, the easier it becomes. Nothing will ever be as hard as being junior and grinding, having to follow minutia processes and being pulled around pillar to post. The operations alone were enough to fill your entire day. As a manger, you don't get your hands dirty like that. Yes you set a few strategies and manage people and recruit, and deal with execs but you do it all in your own time. Can knock it all out under pressure in one day.

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foreverhidden · 07/07/2024 19:38

@Shannith did he have people complain about him?

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Shannith · 07/07/2024 19:42

It was general knowledge - the kind of thing people mutter about and I noticed. And did something about it. Much to his surprise. And everyone else's. Get real feeling now is thank fuck.

And me leading a review to unearth anyone else like that. It's not a larger company and I'm aware of at least 2 others. There won't be anywhere to hide. It literally unfair on people that are effective. I don't mean work over and above - I mean do their jobs well.

Ineedanewsofa · 07/07/2024 19:53

@foreverhidden I agree up to a point - I’d say there is less immediate pressure at senior levels but at that level you are responsible/accountable for everything and ultimately if the shit hits the fan, you have to sort it out. You also become responsible in part for things outside of your area and remit and are expected to take a whole business view, driving company wide initiatives that night have very little to do with your expertise. All with a smile on your face! It’s a different pressure

chatenoire · 07/07/2024 20:06

Yes, although they did figure out I was semi bored

Temporaryname158 · 07/07/2024 20:10

I work 4 days a week. Effectively though I work hard for 3. I can get my hair done, nip to the gym and fit in the weekly shop during my 4 days.

i am paid to do a specific job and I do that to an excellent standard and am classed as going above and beyond with excellent performance reviews. Yes I could produce ‘more’ but I’m not paid to so it could be argued I’m coasting but at the same time I am more than meeting expectations (which aren’t low by the way)

meltedchocolateandstrawberries · 07/07/2024 20:13

I coasted in my last job before I quit to become a SAHM. I cut corners to make my life easier and it never got noticed because it was dumb stuff anyway. Got away with it for 4 years🤣some things they may have noticed once I left but I obviously didn't care then.

SpeedyMrsToad · 07/07/2024 20:14

@foreverhidden its so demoralising. To be so undervalued. Some of my responsibility is huge (some of it law based, some of it government based) - yet here I am on my humiliating salary!

Sadly not many other roles around where I live. but being so terribly paid means I can get a job in a supermarket and not feel the responsibility nor the pressure.

I would love to not have a weekend / annual leave ruined by worrying about massive £9million projects!

roses2 · 07/07/2024 20:27

LadyCrumpet · 07/07/2024 12:41

I get my work done. I go above and beyond. I'm fast and efficient. I still only work at 50-75% of my own personal capacity as that's all my current salary equates to from my effort but the job suits me at the moment.

I do sometimes wonder how fabulous I'd be if I gave it 110% but they don't pay for that so I don't.

This is also me. Except I would say I’m paid very well. I think it’s more common than most people will admit.

llamajohn · 07/07/2024 20:45

spikeandbuffy · 07/07/2024 18:39

Depends on the job. Mine is full on most days but I do get lunch and 2 breaks, work 9 hours a day and usually take around 130 calls
I can't be more efficient as I physically can't take any more calls

Well the. If you're absolutely maxed out all the time... The job is too big for one person.

llamajohn · 07/07/2024 20:49

foreverhidden · 07/07/2024 18:50

Really interesting. What you're describing is the likability factor. Indeed, I've known people who work themselves into the ground, however they are come across as desperate people pleasers, annoying, frazzled and probably just don't have that something about them.

I'd say people who coast and are likeable get away with it more. Although I knew one coaster who drove me mad, got promoted to above me 3 years before I did and boasted how much more money she got at her level. I knew she did no work because if a doc was sent around same day for a meeting, she would have time to go in there, read it, make comments and turn up to the meeting prepared. Vs me at the time who worked so hard and turned up to the meeting sometimes having not had a minute to check my emails, let alone that. She was vocal in meetings, experienced and level headed but really no one liked her and everyone knew she was coasting in the end so that was the end of that. I wonder if she had been likeable if she would have been pushed out.

But surely reading the meeting notes/brief was a priority over whatever it was you were working on in the day or so if lead up to meeting?

So task 5 of 7 could be postponed until that afternoon because you needed to read the meeting agenda happening at 11.45?

llamajohn · 07/07/2024 20:52

foreverhidden · 07/07/2024 19:08

@DullFanFiction if I'm in meetings all day, then how would I have time to check my email, open a doc, read it, comment on it?

In fact it didn't happen often but when it did, only 1-2 people had time to go in and accomplish that task. It was always her. She seemed to be sat without work, fielding emails, keeping the lights on and she knew that meeting had our VP in it, so part of her bare minimum was to turn up to that meeting and be vocal.

She got fired and I've since been promoted so it is not her being good at prioritising vs me not. In those days I was operating without a full team and overworked.

Who scheduled you into these meetings all day?

TortieRage · 07/07/2024 20:53

Morishe · 07/07/2024 13:42

I was a real coaster at my last job- I just left because I was so bored (I might learn to regret that).

I was suppose to be working from home for 37.5 hours per week but I was probably on average doing 2 hours a week max. It wasn’t exactly my fault, I’d ask my manager for more work (marketing) and she would say oh just focus on your projects. Would give me 6 weeks to do something that takes 2 hours max and it would always come across great.

I also had teams on my phone so I could appear “online” on the laptop even if I was out. I would do the food shopping, whole house cleaning and even days out with my DP. I’d watch box sets and go to the gym
I never ever get called up on it.2

but in the end, it actually made me a bit depressed. Sitting around all day and I don’t have DC so I’d just sit bored a lot doing nothing. Ended up not getting out my pyjamas most day and didn’t want to go out as I’d end up spending money.

So now I’m going to start a new job.

Can I apply for your old job please? 😂

spikeandbuffy · 07/07/2024 20:55

@llamajohn fully staffed, there's 25 of us
They can't have us sitting between calls for 10 mins so it's a balance of too busy and busy enough I guess

daisychain01 · 07/07/2024 21:01

waitingforit · 07/07/2024 12:10

I've been quietly quitting for the past 2 years. I've totally gotten away with it and been very pleased with the amount of extra time I have as a result. I work in a job where a lot of your own time is expected. I still work over my contracted hours but I'm getting there.

this thread is generating some very confused and ambiguous responses.

on the one hand you've been "quietly quitting" for two years but "still work over my contracted hours".

quietly quitting is doing less or borderline "only just about" what you're contracted to do, not working more than your contract says.

Oblomov24 · 07/07/2024 21:03

You sound completely toxic.

I always give my all, but that's my choice. But being treated awfully after 7,13,4 years, I now don't give a hoot.

foreverhidden · 07/07/2024 21:05

@llamajohn it was during the pandemic. Did you not have wall to wall meetings? I work for a US company, so if they came online at 2pm my time and sent over a doc for a 5-6pm meeting then no, I didn't have time.

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Madagascary · 07/07/2024 21:05

helpfulperson · 07/07/2024 18:32

Gotten is an old english expression taken to america.

I worked once with someone who in a massive reorganisation had somehow manage to not be matched into a job but also not made redundant. He spent years helping out on projects he fancied and everyone thought he was great because he went 'above and beyond' until it was finally noticed he had no core role. No idea what happened to him.

Thanks for the lesson 🙄🙄🙄

foreverhidden · 07/07/2024 21:05

What's the alternative to 'gotten' in my thread title?

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Luio · 07/07/2024 21:06

I can do my job standing on my head. I find it very easy and I am certainly not super busy all the time. I do extra stuff that I am not paid to do. I would say I am coasting but not in the way you are talking about.

Oblomov24 · 07/07/2024 21:07

This thread is classic.
Re a pp, the £200k v £50k worker.

Have you been watching the post office enquiry scandal about Paula Vennell? The woman earned 5 million for literally doing nothing and always says I don't know, I didn't know that, I wasn't privy to that. and you wonder what on earth she was doing for this money. This thread is similar. it's frightening .

foreverhidden · 07/07/2024 21:12

@Oblomov24 there are so many senior people in huge pay cheques doing the square route of sweet FA. In my company people get so catty, the second you're above a certain level it starts. I've never seen it not start. 'What do they do', 'they take too much credit', 'they're all over the place', 'they are so last minute'... it's a mixture of senior people becoming lazy but also middle managers becoming jealous. Post office clearly didn't have that culture.

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