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29 replies

Elmo230885 · 17/06/2024 18:14

I just wondering if people get paid extra if they are asked to work elsewhere and this would require an overnight stay?

A regular job where being away isn't the norm and very rarely happens. It's a one off to help a new branch set up. 3 days/2 nights weekdays.

DH has been asked to go help set up a new branch so would be away from home, makes it a bit awkward as we aren't set up for either of us to be away with school drip offs/ picks ups. He does most pick ups but it can be sorted. I asked if he would get time off in leui or if he'd get extra hours/overnight payment and he looked at me like I had two heads!

FWIW on the occasions I've had to be away e.g. for training I've always been able to claim extra pay either as hours paid or overnight payment being away from home. Just wondering what is the norm?

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 17/06/2024 18:16

I used to get it in the 80’s,

Never had it or heard of it since then.

Stressedgiraffe · 17/06/2024 18:17

I've just changed jobs so get extra money for any weekend travel and overnight in hotels. All transport hotels and dinner allowance. My old job no expenses at all.
It'll all depend on his contract.

Isyesterdaytomorrowtoday · 17/06/2024 18:18

Only ever known expenses to be paid, never time off or extra pay

IncognitoUsername · 17/06/2024 18:20

DH regularly travels for work. He gets his airfare and hotel stay covered by expenses
Are expenses mentioned in DH’s contract?

IncognitoUsername · 17/06/2024 18:23

Also, some things are seen as ‘good will’ - for example his work recently had a change over of computer system and one person from each department was requested to work a couple of hours to learn the new system and troubleshoot. They were paid their normal rate and I spend two days baking treats for him to take in for them.

PotatoFan · 17/06/2024 18:51

I wouldn’t get any extra for that but expenses would be covered ie hotel and meals

Ragwort · 17/06/2024 18:54

Is it retail? No I don't think it's usual to get paid for extra hours .. travel and hotel / meal expenses should be paid but in all my years in retail we never got extra for 'time'.

imnottoofussed · 17/06/2024 19:09

I've previously had time off in lieu to account for the travel time going to and from the place if I had to leave early morning and get home after work hours but not for the time at the event. Also hot expenses for food.

Invisimamma · 17/06/2024 19:19

I don't get paid extra but do get TOIL. Hours worked plus 4hr overnight allowance.

Elmo230885 · 17/06/2024 19:32

There's nothing in his contract as its not really part of his role. I guess he's more right than me. I must have been lucky in the past.
Thanks.

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Elmo230885 · 17/06/2024 19:34

He'll get food and board paid for.
Similar to @Invisimamma I've always had either TOIL or overnight allowance. I think the last time it was £50 per night for being away from home.

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Tittie · 17/06/2024 20:11

I have worked several jobs, different roles in different industries, which have included nights away for different reasons. I have always had expenses covered (hotel, fuel, food) but no time in lieu and no extra pay. Same for DH. I think that's pretty normal! But we are both salaried, if that makes a difference.

If travel was excessive or if it involved very late nights then a late start the next day would probably be acceptable, if requested.

The only exception would be when I was a carer, and had to sleep at work sometimes in case night shift needed support. Then there was a flat overnight fee. That role was hourly paid.

birdsongfromtheshedroof · 17/06/2024 20:53

We can claim a small amount (can't remember the exact figure but it's less than five pounds) per night for sundries (newspaper etc) and £17 for an evening meal - that includes the budget for a soft drink with the meal. Can't claim for alcohol. Have to provide receipts and pay up front and then claim back. Don't get anything extra from travel time or being away. I work in public sector.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 17/06/2024 21:35

Expenses and time off in lieu only. I'm away about once every couple of months.

rwalker · 17/06/2024 21:52

Accom and travel paid and £30 for evening meal and drinks

Invisimamma · 17/06/2024 21:59

People who are saying you get expenses, that is completely different to being paid or reimbursed for your time away from home.

Expenses are an incidental business cost, your employer should pay these so that you are not out of pocket for doing the job you are employed to do.

When you travel away from home for work you can't do your usual things, like pick kids up from school, go to the gym, meet friends or whatever it is you do with your free time. It's only right and fair that you'd be paid for that, or at least get the time back in lieu.

Personally I wouldn't do an overnight without either time back or over time paid. I do not have a big-money job, but not minimum wage either.

Allthecatseverywhereallatonce · 17/06/2024 22:19

My dh gets fuel/accommodation and meals paid. Any early starts/late finish or overnight are not paid as extra. Has always been like this in his line of work.

Variolia · 17/06/2024 22:21

I get expenses only.

No TOIL or pay, but I’m paid well and contractually obliged to travel trans Atlantic. It is what it is!

Previous jobs have all been the same, but UK only.

Elmo230885 · 18/06/2024 19:38

@Invisimamma that is my thinking. I'm guessing I'm just lucky!
I had a job where I had to go away for 5 days and I got my full time wage plus £50 for each night. The hotel and food were also paid for. This was the initial training. I was asked to do a couple of days mandatory training a couple of years later and it was the same. That was a private health care company so I must have been lucky!
I figure the £50 was a sort of inconvenience payment e.g. I had to put my cat in the cattery as it was before I met my DH and I missed one class of a block of gym classes etc

I honestly thought an ' away from home' payment was the norm on top of necessary expenses. 🙃 It just doesn't seem right that DH would be away causing some upheaval with school pick ups (he finishes at 2.30 as he starts early), makes our kids Monday clubs difficult etc and wouldn't be any better off financially when it's them asking him.

I'll accept that I'm completely out of touch.

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IncognitoUsername · 18/06/2024 19:44

With all due respect, your childcare arrangements are not his work’s concern.

chergar · 18/06/2024 19:49

Dh gets dinner allowance (£30 which can include 1 alcoholic drink), if staying out he can claim lunch allowance (£15) the next day as he wasn't at home to make his sandwiches and he gets £25 "inconvenience" payment, but it has been £25 for the last 15 years without an increase.

Elmo230885 · 18/06/2024 19:51

Well considering that working away from home is not part of his role and his contract is the hours negotiated which has allowed us, as a family to manage school pick ups and drops offs then I personally think that the upheaval caused should be compensated. This is completely different to a job where travel is the norm and is in the contract.
If it meant we had to pay out for out of the norm childcare due to work, I don't see why we should be put of pocket when it's not part of his job role.

Anyway it doesn't really matter as it is doable it's just quite inconvenient for me but luckily my work are reasonably flexible with me.

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chergar · 18/06/2024 19:52

IncognitoUsername · 18/06/2024 19:44

With all due respect, your childcare arrangements are not his work’s concern.

No, but the company don't own him and can't dictate what he does in his own time, they are taking his own time away from him so compensation should be given.

Ponderingwindow · 18/06/2024 19:55

I don’t travel regularly, but on the rare occasions I do have to do work travel, there is no extra compensation. They do pay for hotels, transportation, and I get a per diem for food.

SallyWD · 18/06/2024 19:57

Never, only expenses.