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DH has been placed on a PIP by bullying manager

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pip1996 · 13/06/2024 11:26

DH has been placed on a PIP by a bullying manager and he doesn't see himself in the company.

The PIP itself was a mess (review date was set on a Saturday until DH pointed it out) and no real measurable objectives. HR agreeing with the manager.

Is it advisable to resign. Our mortage is £1250 in August, and i take home nearly 3k (after tax and pension), we don't have kids and live in a modest 2 bed flat. We also have savings.

My feeling is DH should just apply intensively to jobs in the next 3 weeks and hopefully get an offer, then resign. That way, even if there is some issue with the job offer, he can explain it to future employers by saying that he resigned for this job offer but it didn't work out (which has happened in the past, there was a verbal offer made and HR went on holiday and never followed it up and then they recruited someone else in the meantime).

He has 3 months notice but apparently it can be 1 month through mutual agreement.

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pip1996 · 13/06/2024 11:39

Also according to the framework in his company, PIPs are not 'formal'.
There is a performance management panel who would evaluate him if the PIP is deemed unsatisfactory and that would take 1 week.

And then he is dismissed after 2-3 warnings so that is extra time on top of the 4-6 week PIP.

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PeonySeasons · 13/06/2024 11:40

Has he challenged the PIP on the basis it's not SMART?

pip1996 · 13/06/2024 11:42

PeonySeasons · 13/06/2024 11:40

Has he challenged the PIP on the basis it's not SMART?

Yes and HR said it was SMART.

not much use arguing with them tbh.

We have gotten legal advice and the lawyer's advice was to go for settlement but tbh i doubt he would get much as he has only been there 8 months. Easiest would be to find a new job.

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PeonySeasons · 13/06/2024 11:51

Sounds like he's lucky to be on a PIP if he's under 2yrs - they could just sack him for no reason at all if they wanted.

He needs to job hunt ASAP. Only you can decide whether you can afford to live on one wage if he quits with no role to go to.

atticstage · 13/06/2024 12:47

Job hunt then resign.

daisychain01 · 13/06/2024 18:19

pip1996 · 13/06/2024 11:42

Yes and HR said it was SMART.

not much use arguing with them tbh.

We have gotten legal advice and the lawyer's advice was to go for settlement but tbh i doubt he would get much as he has only been there 8 months. Easiest would be to find a new job.

Of course it's worth arguing with them. It's very easy to assess if Objectives are SMART or not. Either your DH is incorrect in saying they aren't SMART or HR is incorrect.

if your DH believes he's correct, why isn't he pointing out that they don't have dates, aren't realistic, aren't specific / are vague and unclear.

if he's only been there 8 months and they're already putting him on a PIP it's probably because he can't do his job or it's a personality clash, and isn't able to put forward a strong enough case as to why they are being unreasonable and unfair.

I wouldn't resign yet, especially if he has a good work history. Try to find new work. He can easily explain it away as "unfortunately the role wasn't what I was expecting".

CassandraWebb · 13/06/2024 18:36

Much better to try and find a new job before resigning

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