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Createyourownpath89 · 03/06/2024 06:59

I have spent the last year doing introductory and a level 2 support teaching and learning. I want to go on to do level 3 and SEND training also to work alongside children. However, it never occurred to me until now I do not have any criminal convictions or even a blemish on my criminal record. However, my eldest son who is 18 now, at 14 was groomed into a gang. I realised very early on something had changed in my sons behaviour and he very quickly become unmanageable. I called social services myself to seek help. Due to the severity of my sons behaviour my other children were subject to child protection as he had bullied them during this time and during that period he wasn't to be left alone with them. I worked with social services fully, and the police also, which meant reporting him as missing if he was half hour late home, reporting any behaviour to SW, at its worst i even reported my son for taking a knife from the home. Something i got alot of stick for however, my view was i either report him and he gets picked up or the unimaginable happened and he uses it on another person or someone takes it from him and uses on him there wasnt even a second thought when i realised i picked up the phone straight away and reported it. At first we could not find proof of him being involved in a gang apart from missing periods each reported obviously, his behaviour and also his moods which suggested cannabis use but no solid proof. Thankfully one day I gained access to his phone while he slept (he usually hid his phone) and managed to find everything that was needed to show social services the school and police that he had been groomed into a gang, however this did lead him to assault me (I was 6 months pregnant at the time)when he found out, and I had to report this as he was arrested for this. The result in long run was it was decided he was to be taken into care for his own safety and the safety of my other children. Once he left the household my other children were removed from the plan as it was deemed the risk was no longer present. My son went downhill and did end up subject to a DOL (deprivation of liberty) which sounds bad, but honestly had it not been for that I think I would be visiting his grave now and not rebuilding a relationship. He is now in an amazing place training for a career he has a real passion In and has finally realised everything I'd been trying to tell him from day one. However, that aside I didn't stop and think that a child protection plan could affect future prospects job wise. I intend to be honest with employers as I am not ashamed of reaching out to social services I alone could not of pulled my son out that circumstance, but I am now worried this will mean I have effectively worked hard for the past year for nothing. Any advice would be greatly appreciated x

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DustyLee123 · 03/06/2024 07:06

Apply for the DBS and see what happens.

IncognitoUsername · 03/06/2024 07:11

I can’t see anything here that would prevent you from getting a DBS?

IncognitoUsername · 03/06/2024 07:12

DustyLee123 · 03/06/2024 07:06

Apply for the DBS and see what happens.

Upu can apply for an Enhanced DBS yourself - the group you are planning to work for has to do it. I do them for our church.

Sirzy · 03/06/2024 07:14

a DBS check will probably show it but that doesn’t mean you won’t be able to do roles it just means the safeguarding lead may ask you about it.

having something picked up on the check doesn’t automatically exclude you it is down to the individual company to decide from what they know (and the people who receive the information will always treat it confidentially)

prh47bridge · 03/06/2024 07:40

An enhanced DBS check covers criminal convictions, cautions, reprimands and warnings. It also includes any non-conviction information that the police deem relevant. There are guidelines as to what the police can and cannot disclose. I don't see that anything you have said meets the threshold for disclosure. None of it indicates that you are in any way a threat to children.

Createyourownpath89 · 03/06/2024 07:45

Sirzy · 03/06/2024 07:14

a DBS check will probably show it but that doesn’t mean you won’t be able to do roles it just means the safeguarding lead may ask you about it.

having something picked up on the check doesn’t automatically exclude you it is down to the individual company to decide from what they know (and the people who receive the information will always treat it confidentially)

I am hoping that being honest about it will go in my favour should it come up. As I said I'm not ashamed for asking for help, I honestly believe it saved my sons life. Just would be gutting if it affected me getting a job when it wasn't me personally that was or is a danger to children x thank you

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Createyourownpath89 · 03/06/2024 07:48

prh47bridge · 03/06/2024 07:40

An enhanced DBS check covers criminal convictions, cautions, reprimands and warnings. It also includes any non-conviction information that the police deem relevant. There are guidelines as to what the police can and cannot disclose. I don't see that anything you have said meets the threshold for disclosure. None of it indicates that you are in any way a threat to children.

I really hope not. Going through that with my son, honestly made me want to help children. I was probably a bit naieve before with the mindset that it doesn't happen close to home. I am not ashamed of asking for help as I said I believe it saved my sons life. I would just be gutted to have worked as hard as I have for a year to be told no. I won't hide it from employers and would be very open and honest just incase.

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Doingmybest12 · 03/06/2024 07:50

The information should flag the need for a risk assessment about what happened. If what you say is correct, I would think the experience stands you in good stead working with children. As long as you've processed what has happened and can generalise from and know not everyone's experience is the same, then I would hope its an asset not a barrier.

IncognitoUsername · 03/06/2024 07:50

Createyourownpath89 · 03/06/2024 07:48

I really hope not. Going through that with my son, honestly made me want to help children. I was probably a bit naieve before with the mindset that it doesn't happen close to home. I am not ashamed of asking for help as I said I believe it saved my sons life. I would just be gutted to have worked as hard as I have for a year to be told no. I won't hide it from employers and would be very open and honest just incase.

I really don’t understand why you think that asking for help would stop you working with children?

thepurplepenguin · 03/06/2024 07:59

My kids were previously on a CIN plan for reasons outside of my control. I've had an enhanced DBS since then and nothing came up afaik, I certainly wasn't asked about it.

Createyourownpath89 · 03/06/2024 08:00

IncognitoUsername · 03/06/2024 07:50

I really don’t understand why you think that asking for help would stop you working with children?

Because of the situation my son was in it posed a danger to my other children and they were placed on child protection and he was not allowed to be left alone with them. And whilst I was the one who asked for the help I still had involvement from social services and was concerned that it could affect a enhanced dbs even though I was not the danger

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Createyourownpath89 · 03/06/2024 08:06

Doingmybest12 · 03/06/2024 07:50

The information should flag the need for a risk assessment about what happened. If what you say is correct, I would think the experience stands you in good stead working with children. As long as you've processed what has happened and can generalise from and know not everyone's experience is the same, then I would hope its an asset not a barrier.

Yes I'd say it took me a year to process it fully. I would say it has made me more vigilant of the friends my children have but I always advise them to remember they are their own person and not be around those that force them to do things or make them feel uncomfortable with anything, and what they saw my son go through and me I think has made them aware of the dangers themselves.
I think going through that although has made me vigilant, also made me realise that sometimes things happen that are out of a parents control and what is important is how they handle and respond to the situation.

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Createyourownpath89 · 03/06/2024 08:07

thepurplepenguin · 03/06/2024 07:59

My kids were previously on a CIN plan for reasons outside of my control. I've had an enhanced DBS since then and nothing came up afaik, I certainly wasn't asked about it.

Thank you. It's gutting that something that was out of your control could potentially affect the career u want

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sashh · 03/06/2024 08:18

You need an enhanced DBS. It does not need to be 'clear'.

So IF anything is put on by the police, any employer will discuss it with you and assess your ability to do the job.

Having a teenager groomed by a gang could actually be an advantage as you have first hand experience.

Createyourownpath89 · 03/06/2024 11:02

sashh · 03/06/2024 08:18

You need an enhanced DBS. It does not need to be 'clear'.

So IF anything is put on by the police, any employer will discuss it with you and assess your ability to do the job.

Having a teenager groomed by a gang could actually be an advantage as you have first hand experience.

thank you for you advice. i will keep my fingers crossed. i would love to think personal experience could be an advantage, especially if it helps another child or parent to get through it

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sashh · 03/06/2024 12:10

I know a teacher with an assault on their DBS.

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