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Going to lose my job next week

22 replies

Spangletwat · 03/05/2024 22:24

After 18 years. I snapped at someone online and now have a malicious communications conviction. My work won’t accept any convictions and now I have no idea what to do.

Just needed to tell someone. Any idea where to start? I have outgoings of £2k per month and have 6 months savings.

outgoings are mortgage, council tax, energy bills and car/house/pet insurance/mobile. Husband has a small business and pays for groceries and sky subs. We did the sums today and it’s going to be awful. I’ve been the breadwinner since we met.

Do I just get on indeed and start applying? How do I get advice?

I have a very niche career history and seem to have painted myself into a corner with how specialist I am. I feel horrendous.

OP posts:
WarshipRocinante · 03/05/2024 22:26

Your husband needs to get an actual job to start with as it may take you a while. Why can’t he get a proper job?

WarshipRocinante · 03/05/2024 22:26

Also… do you need to tell your employer??

Blueplantpots · 03/05/2024 22:28

Husband has a small business and pays for groceries and sky subs

Then he needs to get another job doesn’t he? It’s a no brainer.

OolongTeaDrinker · 03/05/2024 22:32

Why have you been the breadwinner since you met? Surely in long term partnerships it fluctuates between who is bank rolling who?

Spangletwat · 03/05/2024 22:34

WarshipRocinante · 03/05/2024 22:26

Your husband needs to get an actual job to start with as it may take you a while. Why can’t he get a proper job?

He retired from the military 15 years ago and now has chronic health conditions.
Commendable empathy. Thank you for your support.

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Starlightstarbright3 · 03/05/2024 22:36

Well cancel sky subscription . He needs to find more work .

Does work need to know . I assume they are part of the investigation .

yes get applying . At least if it lives to dismissal you are in the process of applying

Gazelda · 03/05/2024 22:40

Have you actually been dismissed? Is there a possibility you could explain, apologise and ask for leniency?

WarshipRocinante · 03/05/2024 22:40

Spangletwat · 03/05/2024 22:34

He retired from the military 15 years ago and now has chronic health conditions.
Commendable empathy. Thank you for your support.

What are you expecting? You’ve been abusive/threatening online and received a conviction for it. There isn’t any sympathy there. Even on this forum, when someone posts to ask what to do about someone online being abusive, the advice is to report to the police and also track down their employer and send the messages to their boss. So… sorry, but there really isn’t any reason for empathy here.

Your husband earns pocket money and you’re going to lose your job. So… he needs to get a job, at least while you look for a new one who will overlook the conviction.

blueshoes · 03/05/2024 22:46

I snapped at someone online and now have a malicious communications conviction.

For you to be convicted it sounds pretty serious, not just a one-off 'snapped at someone online'. If it is one-off, what you said must have been pretty egregious.

I hope you are not minimising the offence because your employer is not going to be sympathetic if you do not show remorse and a willingness to change.

dancingdaisies · 03/05/2024 22:48

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MyBoiledEggIsTooSoft · 03/05/2024 22:50

OP, for it to be a conviction it sounds bad. Is there any explanation? Could you speak to work, explain and outline why it wouldn’t happen again?

suki1964 · 03/05/2024 22:53

Are you sure that you are going to be given the push? Have you had any disciplinary meetings as yet?

For you, get the CV sorted. Make it more towards where you want to go moving forwards. Thats after signing on for the new JSA - its not a lot but your stamp is covered and even a few quid helps}

if your DH is not where he can work, do what my DH did when I had a breakdown and we lived on his wage - charged me to cut the costs , and I did and still do,

Look at what his disability is, Can you get more benefit - look as those online benefit checkers , if he needs more help and your have to be there for 35 hours a week, you may get more (BTW Im not advocating a life on benefits, just pointing out there are some which can help in times of need )

Maddy70 · 03/05/2024 22:55

He must. have disability benefits and a military pension. Plus his business. You will have to find another job after losing yours

You will both have to cut down on non essentials until you get this sorted

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 03/05/2024 22:57

Maybe talk to your HR and see if they can give you a notice period. You may qualify for benefits while looking for a new job so maybe seek benefits advice? And yes def start job hunting now, is there a recruitment agency that specialises in your area of work?

Genuinely curious, how do you get a malicious communications conviction from 1 comment??

JosiePosey · 03/05/2024 23:08

How will your company find out?

OutOfTheHouse · 03/05/2024 23:14

I love all the people who spout that the DH will have to get another job. You can’t just walk into jobs like that.

dreamfield · 03/05/2024 23:52

WarshipRocinante · 03/05/2024 22:40

What are you expecting? You’ve been abusive/threatening online and received a conviction for it. There isn’t any sympathy there. Even on this forum, when someone posts to ask what to do about someone online being abusive, the advice is to report to the police and also track down their employer and send the messages to their boss. So… sorry, but there really isn’t any reason for empathy here.

Your husband earns pocket money and you’re going to lose your job. So… he needs to get a job, at least while you look for a new one who will overlook the conviction.

Um, what do you think you're doing right now?

dreamfield · 03/05/2024 23:55

Op, I think you need to speak to a reputable recruiter for your sector and also get advice from people who know your sector.

Everybody is better than their mistakes, it doesn't define you and there will be a way forward.

Mrmoose23 · 03/05/2024 23:58

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R41nb0wR0se · 03/05/2024 23:59

As you've only just been convicted, your conviction won't yet be "spent". Most employers ask about unspent convictions, so it may well prove challenging to get a new job.

As others have said, is dismissal an inevitability? I've dealt with people in roles requiring an enhanced DBS, and convictions haven't always resulted in dismissal. Factors I'd consider as a decision maker: relevance of offence to role, risk and impact of repetition, risk to employer reputation, mitigation, remorse.

Mrmoose23 · 04/05/2024 00:12

Sorry I’ve asked for my post above to be removed

gertrudemortimer · 04/05/2024 00:25

Op are you sure you will get fired, genuinely? Don't jump the gun and throw the towel in because explaining offences to strangers at interview is very very hard. You currently work with/for people who know you and know your character, out of every job out there those are the best most likely people to be understanding of your circumstances, do everything you can to keep the job. I worked for the nhs and got a caution, I told them straight away and it was fine. I just had to bring in my paperwork, explain the situation to my manager etc. I also got a new job in a school a few years later, basically both sectors require an enhanced check and so far everyone has been understanding and fine with me because I was honest. It's a difficult conversation to have with strangers but you will be making it bigger than other people are trust me. On the other side of this I worked with another person in the same nhs role who got fired for not declaring his driving offence!

I know how hard it is I was close to suicidal thinking I'd lose my job and home but you have to get yourself out of the hole and things will always get better

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