£10k more for new hires

[Chewsday]

Hypothetically, if you saw the company you work for was advertising for the same job you do, but the advertised job managed half as much budget as you do, and the salary range on offer in the advert ranged from £5k to £10k pa above the salary you’re currently on (all other things equal eg office location etc) what would be your next steps?

I'd apply for it!

Seriously that's what I threatened to do in a similar situation, and suddenly my job was re-evaluated and I was given a pay rise

Genuinely considering this tactic yeah!😬

I’d be negotiating a pay rise, they’ve shown they’re prepared to pay more - no point in being coy about money.

I agree apply for it.

Moving on if I don't get more. My last job I was hugely crucial to revenue but got the same hourly after 5 years as a lady I was managing for 5 months who frankly I could easily cover

I'd start looking for other roles while also trying to negotiate a pay rise with my current role

I don't know why employers think this is ok. When I realised the market had shifted I ensured I got a pay uplift for all the team before advertising new roles at the uplifted salary

This happens where I work.....external applicants can negotiate where they start in the spinal point structure whereas internal promotions have to start at the bottom. Some staff doing same role as me, less time with the company yet on £6k a year more.

Having worked in senior recruitment roles for years, I can confirm that external hires will almost always come in at higher salaries. Because rightly or wrongly, there needs to be an incentive for them to join. Internal promotions are rarely lucrative and if you want a significant boost, you need to change companies.

But also no, if it's the same job you're doing, you don't apply for it - you discuss a pay rise with management.

I'd put in a blind application and see if I got an interview.

Generally jobs are advertised at more-or-less market rates for skills and experience.

Yeah i think it’s this. Mentioned it to my assignment manager and was told that it’s just an incentive thing and not really what they’d pay. Going to follow up with line manager to make sure I’m defo at the place I feel I should be on the pay band given that advertised rate, but I am 100% not expecting anything will change.

I'd start looking for other roles while also trying to negotiate a pay rise with my current role

I agree with this. Think how much it would cost them to replace you:

• expensive recruitment fees from recruitment companies
• time for company's HR to sift through the applications and present a long list to the managers
• time taken out of the business for interview process
• loss of continuity between the time you left and new person starts and time as the new person comes up to speed
• loss of other employees who realise they are undervalued and unappreciated

The list goes on.

Time to focus on yourself OP. 🌹

in 2022 my role was advertised for 10k more than what I was on. I raised it with my manager. Took them 3 months to raise my salary. By then I had already resigned and was leaving for a job for 15k more (they approved and promised me the salary increase for the end of sept and mid sept I resigned)

The list goes on.

• Plus the increased rate they're advertising on the market. 🌹