If you work in sales, is it just the accepted thing that there is always a colleague that cheats?

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It seems to be the case at the company I work for.

I love my job. I do the job properly, as do most of my lovely colleagues apart from two.

These two basically seem to be getting vast amounts of commission by cheating. By this I mean that they take other people's customers in a sneaky way, and take a sale that someone else has put the groundwork in for (this is a total no no in the company)

They are also doing what I consider to be fraudulent things to get more commission from a sale, and more sales. These things are again things that we have been told categorically by management not to do, and tbh the rest of us would not do it anyway because it's just not right or moral.

Many of us have raised this with management, many times, and they just dismiss it or say they'll sort it but they never do.

I know for a fact that if I did the things these colleagues do, then I would be pulled up on it, as there seem to be high standards for the rest of us, just not these two. I have also heard both speaking with customers and neither seem particularly good from what I have heard.

Is it just the thing in sales that it has to be accepted that some staff cheat and get away with cheating?

Oh and I probably should say too that the cheating colleagues are male. Managers for the team are male. The rest of the team female

Boys club
Promise's of change etc that's just to placate the little women.

I have seen it plenty of times, it is often a boys club thing but i think that it tends to be if you are one of the top performers (even if its by cheating) you can do whatever you want.

It makes me so angry, and he's so smug about it all too.

I was recently on holiday and he phoned one of my customers that I've built a two year relationship with and told them he was taking over their account and then did a massive sale to them.

We're not allowed to do that, nor would I want to, but when I spoke to my manager he said he thought that the cheating colleague was just being helpful whilst I was away but that he'd 'talk to him'

Fuck that! I'd be telling them I want that commission as I'd been doing all the hard work and he'd spived me!!

Can't you take it to HR or take it further that's poaching!!

If this is your client, the commission should be yours, the structure and rules should be clear. If he has broken rules, take it to HR.

Why did the client buy from him and not from you?

The cheating colleague has now been fired. Turns out he'd cheated the company out of many tens of thousands and done some other fraudulent activities too.

Not impressed that we were gaslit by management for so long when we reported his behaviour, but glad he's gone!

Wow. That's a good result though. Perhaps they were investigating all the while but couldn't tell you due to confidentiality.

Why on earth are you not standing up for yourself? Why are you so passive in all of this? Especially now? He's been sacked.

Turn around and tell your manager and HR that this is fraudulent and the sale belongs to you - you've done all the donkey work and he stole it from you at the last minute. You want this sale taken out of his account and attributed to your account. FFS stand up for yourself woman.

Oh I've asked for that but they can't change it as he was already paid the commission on it