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Mat Leave Cover - Thoughts/Opinions?

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Terry8er · 07/03/2024 21:17

So, I told my boss this week that I'm pregnant (2nd baby). I'm in a senior role at the company and have been there almost 8 years.

For my first Mat Leave, we had less structure but my most senior direct report stepped up to cover (and we promoted other team members and hired elsewhere in the team to even out responsibilities). I was the one to suggest this arrangement - this person had worked there almost as long as me, we are close and I knew she'd be happy to resume less responsibility again when I was back. I was happy with how things went but the company went through quite a bit of change and this person did unfortunately have to take on more than anyone bargained for. When I came back and on many occasions since, my boss said we would never let me go again without getting someone in for full cover as it was too much.

Fast forward to now. I told my boss early this week about my news and she has already provisionally agreed with the board that they will recruit for a maternity contract to replace me. We told the three managers who report into me together yesterday too. One of these managers, is the one who covered me last time and coincidentally handed her notice in a few weeks ago. We just hired her replacement yesterday after having interviews, though this replacement won't start for at least two months. One of the other managers is great but has been with us less than a year, then the third manager has been there longer but is a little less senior and works across more of a separate area.

Anyway, my boss text me this morning (I've had the day off today) to say the second manager (who's been with us less than a year) asked to speak to her and has asked to step up as my maternity cover. She said she hasn't promised her anything but has asked her to produce a bit of a proposal and speak to me about it next week. My boss unfortunately is now away for 2-3 weeks so I don't think I'll get an opportunity to hear exactly what was said.

I have concerns with this potential arrangement. Before I was promoted to my role, I covered mat leave for the person previously in my now role. It was a different situation as I'd actually been there longer than her and to be quite honest, always felt on a par with her, however she was brought in as she had more 'big brand' experience. Me covering her did not go so well. I did a great job (as I had been doing before she was hired tbh) and the dynamic was then weird when she came back, I think she struggled to find her place again which I did sympathise with. She ended up leaving - she wasn't a very nice person and rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way. I later found out she'd tried to get me sacked on her return, claiming I'd not done a good job of cover which simply was not true, and my boss didn't entertain it as she saw that I had done a good job with results speaking for themself.

Anyway, this manager who's a direct report of mine is a lovely person, but I do carry that worry that the dynamic would be weird on my return. Also, the three managers I mentioned cover three departments. She only has experience in the department she's managing now. So I don't see her just assuming my role, I think if anything it would be a joint effort with the other managers. However this is made very tricky with the one who is leaving as her replacement will only get 2 1/2 months with me. I also hate the idea of someone stepping up to have to step back down again. I myself found it difficult when I did it.

The other alternative is a completely new replacement covering me on a 12 month contract but I have my worries with that too. I love my team and current managers so that does still feel less scary than someone who might try to change everything while I'm gone?

Phew, thanks for sticking with me if you're still here!

So really I'm keen to hear other people's experiences with someone (or multiple people) stepping up to cover them, and also someone covering from outside the business on a maternity contract?

TIA 😊

OP posts:
waterlellon · 07/03/2024 21:41

I don't think you should get a say. You're too affected by your own experience

Namechange13101 · 08/03/2024 08:59

Having been on maternity leave twice, i would give it no head space at all. Ultimately its not your issue who does your job or how they do it why you're off. You can go back to doing it how you want when you're back and should just spend your energy enjoying your maternity leave with your newborn :-)

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 08/03/2024 09:57

Ultimately, your maternity leave cover is neither your responsibility or your business.

It's a company decision as to how they deal with your absence.

All the matters is that you are allowed to return to the same role or better on your return.

PickledPurplePickle · 08/03/2024 10:04

It’s not your decision

Also if you are taking 12 months you aren’t entitled to your job back at the end, though you do have to be offered a role in the company for the same pay

Terry8er · 08/03/2024 11:37

Appreciate the comments but ultimately the type of company we are (a small close knit one) and my boss' relationship with me means I will get a say in this - she wants to ensure I'm comfortable with what's decided which I appreciate.

If my managers want to step up then I'd love for them to do that, I'm just concerned about spoiling the great dynamic we all have working together.

I'm asking for people's experiences similar to either option I've outlined in the original post.

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Terry8er · 08/03/2024 11:40

Also I believe they DO have to offer my old job back if that job still exists in the company, even if someone else is doing it. So I'd say a 12 month mat leave cover would protect me more than another option.

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Trisolaris · 08/03/2024 11:43

I’d be more worried that the dynamic will be spoiled if she puts together an excellent proposal and would be a good cover but you bring in someone else because you don’t want her for personal reasons. It sounds like she is someone who wants to progress and gain the experience, ultimately she might leave once she steps down again but will probably feel a lot more favourably about the company for giving her the opportunity.

Tel12 · 08/03/2024 11:49

I worked in HR in a large organisation and your scenario was not uncommon. I don't recall a problem with the return to work when a team member had been acting up. On occasion the opportunity to act up could cascade down the ranks iyswim. If the person is capable it can ensure smooth management of the cover, plus even if they have only a few months experience that's more than anyone coming in from the outside who is not likely to hit the ground running. The return should be easier too. Seems logical to me, if they have the ability.

Terry8er · 08/03/2024 12:05

Trisolaris · 08/03/2024 11:43

I’d be more worried that the dynamic will be spoiled if she puts together an excellent proposal and would be a good cover but you bring in someone else because you don’t want her for personal reasons. It sounds like she is someone who wants to progress and gain the experience, ultimately she might leave once she steps down again but will probably feel a lot more favourably about the company for giving her the opportunity.

I'm absolutely open to hearing her proposal with my boss. One of the main issues though with her doing this on her own is she only has experience in the one area she manages, whereas I look after the three managers covering three departments. I don't think it would be fair for her (with less than a year's service) to be the one that the other managers would then report to while I was off. I think if stepping up cover was an option, it would be the three of them together.

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waterlellon · 08/03/2024 12:05

Trisolaris · 08/03/2024 11:43

I’d be more worried that the dynamic will be spoiled if she puts together an excellent proposal and would be a good cover but you bring in someone else because you don’t want her for personal reasons. It sounds like she is someone who wants to progress and gain the experience, ultimately she might leave once she steps down again but will probably feel a lot more favourably about the company for giving her the opportunity.

I agree. I really do think you need to step out of this decision OP. I know you don't want to but you really shouldn't get a say in your cover for your own sake.

SlowlyLurking · 08/03/2024 12:08

I think this is a recipe for disaster and you're far, far too close to this decision to make any kind of reasonable assessment without bias.

I think you'd do well to ask to stay out of this decision entirely.

Mrsttcno1 · 08/03/2024 12:19

I do agree with other posters that you’re best off staying out of the decision making.

That said though, I’m currently 8 months pregnant, my employer hired externally for my maternity cover and it is a bit of a nightmare. He started 3 weeks ago “shadowing” me, but he has no real understanding of the business or my role at all, he’s having to learn everything from scratch which naturally does take time, he’s a lovely person but it’s quite a big job to step into and I don’t think he appreciated quite how big it was (how could he really as an external candidate). I’ve only got another 3 weeks left at work and I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if within weeks of me leaving he decides to just quit and leave, I know it’s not really my problem but if everything falls apart then it will be my problem when I return! I’d have much preferred someone internal if it had been possible, who at least had some knowledge of the business and who did really know/understand the job.

ConflictedCheetah · 08/03/2024 12:20

You can't deny a woman an opportunity to step up and develop because you're afraid it'll be hard to manage her and the dynamics when you get back. That's on you and it would be desperately unfair to hold her back for that reason.

Also you're worried about her not having managed two of the areas before but surely anyone appointed otherwise won't have direct experience of managing them where you are anyway?

ConflictedCheetah · 08/03/2024 12:21

It really should just be an open and competitive process. Get an ad up and allow her to compete for it with any other applicants. She'll be the best candidate or she won't!

PoppingTomorrow · 08/03/2024 12:24

Terry8er · 08/03/2024 12:05

I'm absolutely open to hearing her proposal with my boss. One of the main issues though with her doing this on her own is she only has experience in the one area she manages, whereas I look after the three managers covering three departments. I don't think it would be fair for her (with less than a year's service) to be the one that the other managers would then report to while I was off. I think if stepping up cover was an option, it would be the three of them together.

How do people get experience if they don't have experience, then?
You sound a bit as though you are trying to hold her back tbh

strawberry2017 · 08/03/2024 12:32

I think I'd rather have someone cover me that at least knows the company and have some experience then a complete unknown.

waterlellon · 08/03/2024 12:35

PoppingTomorrow · 08/03/2024 12:24

How do people get experience if they don't have experience, then?
You sound a bit as though you are trying to hold her back tbh

Yes, and even if you aren't that is how it will be perceived if she doesn't get it and you're involved.

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 08/03/2024 12:43

I'd advertise your cover internally and say that she can apply. That way she has to prove she can do the job.

Also try not to worry about what it might be like when you get back. You have no idea what you will return to. If she finds it hard to step down then you can tackle that if it happens.

ExPostFacto · 08/03/2024 13:41

'Weird dynamics' can happen regardless of the structure. I've seen mat covers do such a good job that an additional role was created for them, and they then overtook the person they'd replaced. Not as in taking over their role, but progressed faster, especially as original employee slowed down a bit with having young children.

The best solution IMO is co-leadership. Split your job (and maybe some of direct report's job) between her and the maternity cover only. Don't make the mistake of divvying up responsibilities between all and sundry, that didn't work the last time.

This way, your direct report gets to develop and guides cover with her knowledge of the business. Cover is also full-time, so if the job gets too overwhelming and direct steps down there's a smooth transition.

ilovebrie8 · 08/03/2024 13:54

strawberry2017 · 08/03/2024 12:32

I think I'd rather have someone cover me that at least knows the company and have some experience then a complete unknown.

This is spot on!

Someone external who knows nothing abt the business is going to find it tougher. She has some knowledge as she is already working there so has a head start on any outsider.

Newnamesameoldlurker · 08/03/2024 14:00

It sounds like there's no clear great option here that you'd be very happy with so I would stay neutral in your position. It sounds like you are really valued by your employer. I got no say in my maternity cover arrangements and it felt a bit crap, so maybe if its stressing you out just keep focusing on the bigger picture ie how highly they rate you to keep you involved with the process like this.

Daffidale · 08/03/2024 19:23

I think she should apply properly for the mat leave cover role, as that way you get to properly and fairly assess her. That could be an internal only process or advertising it externally. That way it’s also very clear to the other two reports that a fair process was followed and she hasn’t just been gifted it.

you could also discuss the dynamic on your return and make sure everyone’s expectations are set going in.

you may need to look at temporary backfill for her current role.

IMO it’s great that your boss wants to involve you in this and values your perspective.

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