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bluery · 05/03/2024 06:22

I'm going to be a bit vague for obvious reasons.
There are redundancies looming at our workplace.
I was recently asked to take on a more difficult aspect of a job; I agreed because I want to keep my job and be of value.
At the time of the suggestion my boss said I was going to be 'put up' a level due to the nature of the extra part of the role. He said contracts were being written up that week.
I started this a few weeks ago and yesterday I asked if the contract changes had gone through yet. I was told, no that's not happening now and later got invited to a redundancy consultation along with many others.
So I'm doing this extra thing but everything (verbally) agreed that went with it has gone.
I don't know what to do, I don't dare say anything but I feel so betrayed

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nannynick · 05/03/2024 06:28

So no change to pay but doing extra duties. On the list for possible redundancy.

Yeah, don't think you can do anything at the moment, as if you stopped doing the extra duties, then may get you unwanted attention. Redundancy selection should not be based on things like that, but a selection is made somehow, so someone going above and beyond can stand out for good a reason to keep them employed.

Long term, once redundancies have happened, then negotiate salary. However there may not be any room to negotiate if the company are having cashflow issues.

Try to communicate using email, so you have a log, so a future manager can see what occurred. Your current manager may also be on the redundancy list.

MariaVT65 · 05/03/2024 06:29

I got made redundant a couple of years ago and nearly again a few months ago.

I would say don’t feel ‘betrayed’ as it likely won’t be personal. Unless you work for a very small company, these decisions are made by people a lot higher up who don’t even know you or care about your knowledge or contribution.

The process was a total eye opener for me and sadly, made me give much less of a shit about working above bare minimum requirement.

I would start looking for other jobs and in the meantime, absolutely cease doing any activities beyond your pay grade without the extra pay.

MariaVT65 · 05/03/2024 06:32

I disagree with the above poster who suggests to continue doing extra work without pay as it would increase your chances of being made redundant.

Reality is:

-The management probably already know who they want to keep
-They’ll be more likely to continue to offer you shit pay and treat you like a mug if you’re seen willing to do it

bluery · 05/03/2024 06:35

My instinct is to say nothing at the moment.
Due to location and other family things (sorry mega vague) this is almost the perfect job and only one that works for my kids etc and I do love the place.
It's complicated.
I think for now I'll do my best and just hope. I was tempted to speak to him today but I don't want to polish any targets on my back or anything.
My hearts breaking at the thought of losing my family's safety net.
Thanks for replying

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MariaVT65 · 05/03/2024 06:54

Do you work for a big or small company?

Both my companies have been big and tbh my boss has been made redundant in the process before I have, so it depends exactly what role your boss has had to play in all of it. But ‘saying something’ about how you feel betrayed to anyone will be pointless. But you still have the right to raise concerns about the extra work for no pay, and say you’ll be more than happy to take it up again if your job remains.

bluery · 05/03/2024 07:01

It's kind of a one boss but run by somewhere else although he has almost total control.
I should say that had I been given this nudge up I wouldn't be in the group for possible redundancy.
Lone parent and no financial support from other parent, tried every avenue for that.
I'm feeling a low point I've never felt and I've been pretty low before

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Bestyearever2024 · 05/03/2024 07:05

Are you saying that it is ONLY because you've been given these extra duties, that you now find yourself in the group of people which is up for possible redundancy?

MariaVT65 · 05/03/2024 07:06

As a precaution I would start looking for other jobs now anyway. It may even benefit you. It did me.

bluery · 05/03/2024 07:20

No, I'm saying if I had been given the lift in levels I would have been 'safe'.
Now I have the extra duties but unsafe.
Sorry for being vague

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bluery · 05/03/2024 07:21

MariaVT65 · 05/03/2024 07:06

As a precaution I would start looking for other jobs now anyway. It may even benefit you. It did me.

Small place here, put it that way. Not an employment hot spot

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JustANobody · 06/03/2024 14:56

MariaVT65 · 05/03/2024 06:32

I disagree with the above poster who suggests to continue doing extra work without pay as it would increase your chances of being made redundant.

Reality is:

-The management probably already know who they want to keep
-They’ll be more likely to continue to offer you shit pay and treat you like a mug if you’re seen willing to do it

They absolutely do, the 'consultation' is just to cover their backs as a legal requirement.
My boss was a very good actor when it came to mine, airing the possibility of other jobs he knew full well I couldn't do.

TeenLifeMum · 06/03/2024 15:01

Dh is in a similar position and we just mutter “well this is all bullshit” a lot. Companies do not appear to be treating employees with any respect. It sucks, but it’s “just a job”.

SanctusInDistress · 06/03/2024 20:36

So stop doing that extra thing immediately! Been there, and what will happen is this, and in this order:

  1. you take in tbe work in tbe hope they don’t make you redundant
  2. you do the above without extra pay or job title pay
  3. you survive redundancy
  4. you carry on extra work without extra pay or job change
  5. they promise you it’s coming
  6. it never comes
  7. you get increasingly tired; they start performance managing you
  8. you find a new job
  9. they advertise your job + with the extra work at a lower salary than currently
  10. they got rid of you without paying you redundancy
  11. you are shattered and resentful
TizerorFizz · 06/03/2024 23:31

Some of the above is hugely negative.

First of all: I assume the company is losing money. It costs to make staff redundant so it must be desperate to stay afloat.

Secondly: has it been taken over? Are there job mergers? What is the story of this company?

Thirdly: When they talk about redundancies - what’s the plan after the redundancies? Are they carrying on with the company? Will there be new jobs? Can you apply for a newly created job? Is there an opportunity coming up as you now have more skills?

Lastly: do not leave or you won’t be redundant. You would then forfeit redundancy pay! You need it. You don’t know if your job is affected right now so don’t leave. Do start thinking about “what if” though. What else could you do? It’s wrong your extra pay has not materialized but you could get a better job at the end of this.

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