Is there such a thing as £60k+ part time/term time career?

[workingmum6]

I currently work part time days and for this I get paid well (£45k ish)

The business is good, they mainly let me get on with my own work but the stress is high. Never ever do I finish on my third day and that's it until the next week. I would say I probably work 4-4.5 days every week and it's almost expected of me.

The office is over an hour away from me and I'm expected to be in as much as possible. I have a little one along with step children and throughout the week it's a constant battle trying to get back in time to do the pick up or just be there before they go to bed.

I'm also freaking out at the thought of when he starts school and how I'm going to manage the school holidays.

Are there any jobs that can pay well part time or term time? I'm in business development and I wasn't sure whether schools/colleges/universities look for business development/relationship management.

Any help would be really appreciated!

How? You'd need a law conversion course and then a pupillage, surely? Which are notoriously demanding, timewise.

The civil service, I know plenty of people doing what you are looking for OP. Though at the salary levels you are looking for getting in can be tricky, not impossible mind. No particular qualifications needed for most jobs either.

@Spirallingdownwards really?
I can't fathom why anyone would want to take me - a knackered mid forties mum even with my years of experience vs a shiny twenty something who would be much more able to stay late

All these children that need running around after must have a father? Which days is he doing pick up etc?

@Notahotmess Some people do retrain! Of course they do. Like most careers you take the pain for a few years to get the gains later on. Possibly not serious for the op but women who want school holidays available should look at careers that might facilitate this.

They can be done over 2 years on a part time online learning basis. (or in 8 months full time if she could afford to take time out).

Pupillage are not like historic ones and actually can pay quite well on a salaried basis these days too. Fortunately they have moved with the times a bit recently.

Further it is never too late. It is a profession where career changers and those with experience in other fields can be a good fit.

I also think it sounds like you're on a fairly good thing where you are. I'd explore renegotiating that as much as I could before jumping from that ship.

When I worked "part time" I also found I was basically cramming all of my original job into 4 days. I ended up going back full time because I thought that I may as well get paid for it. I found I was less stressed and finished on time because I had enough time to do my job and got the pay for it.

I work in business development for a large law firm. I go in once a week and work 0.8 fte. There are a number of people who have moved further from London and negotiated 1 day a fortnight in the office but our firm isn’t usual. Most law firms are expecting 3 days a week in the office though.

If you can flex on the term time only, and properly PT would work, then look at BD roles in large PS firms.

Salaries 40-50 for an exec, 70-80k for a manager, 85+ for a senior manager.

You might be able to earn this as SLT in a larger school, but that’s little use to you unless you are a teacher! It’s certainly not part time or WFH and you’ll probably be doing 60 hour weeks in term time when it’s a very inflexible role.

But universities aren't term time only. They might be for students - they certainly aren't for staff.

@Neriah
It depends on the post, I wasn't permanent staff, my year stopped in June and restarted in mid-September. Excellent hourly rate but 0 security.

I assumed the OP was looking for more employment security, and part-time term time working ( which was the ask). Everyone I know in universities work throughout the summer and other "holidays". The only real down time I see them have is around Christmas, and many are especially busy in the summer.

Look at Civil service/Arm's Reach Bodies/local authorities for term time contracts. Salaries not as high as private sector, but very flexible. I earn £45k with a bit of responsive OT on a 0.8 FTE contract on a professional role, and can flex around school, hospital appts and dh working away.

i don’t actually work a Term Time contract, but we offer them on the basis that the role can work effectively in that pattern.

People I know on those salaries working part time are accountants or an actuary. I know someone on 55 doing 3 days and they are an educational advisor for academies

What is an arms reach body?

Senior leadership (teaching) in schools/MATs would pay that or more with the expectation of most of the holiday 'off' (read: working from home) but non-teaching roles would be usually by pro rata so you'd need to be applying for roles with a c. £75k full time salary to earn £60k as a term timer.

It's a myth that education is great hours. A thing of the past.

@BlackBean2023 Not according to a posted upthread in a private school. Very full on in term time but does take holidays off. As indeed I have seen in private schools.

That's a senior teaching role (still only paying £50k- OP wants £60k) for which OP is not qualified and PP is clear is the outcome of a 20 year career. It's comparing apples and pears.

There's also a reason teachers are leaving the profession in droves.

Not for £60,000 pa part time jobs it appears though! If they are so easy to get, why all the comments about stay where you are. If you cannot get qualified for better there’s no magic formula for £60k part time. If the OP was a high flyer she’d be getting that by now.

Civil service can be very flexible.

Obv the pay isn't up there with the highest of the private sector but if you're on 45k part time (you don't mention what you do but a lot is transferrable directly or not) you could probably go in at least mid management and quickly work up.

They tend to recruit higher up stuff more internally unless very specialist. Plenty of training opportunities too.

It might be a question of either aiming to get to the salary and working pattern you want once you're in or keeping a hawk eye on the recruitment pages for the right job.

Teaching hasn't been "great hours" for at least 50 years. It's not a recent phenomenon.

Independent schools might be worth a look.

Most of those jobs won’t be advertised as part time - generally occur where individual has worked their way up to big salary as a full timer then negotiated part time in my experience. Like you have discovered though the job is still full time just trying to do it in part time hours!

I'd approach your current workplace about going full time, but with significantly decreased expectations re how often you'll be in the office.

Well it depends what you do op?

if you have a profession then locum work can pay well