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Support thread for job hunters...anyone else losing their mind?!

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Wiggle975 · 13/02/2024 09:10

As the title says, is anyone else worn out, and starting to lose their mind through job applications and interviews?

I am exhausted and starting to get very fed up with it all. The wasting of time.

OP posts:
Echobelly · 25/04/2024 17:15

I'm with you OP - found out I was being made redundant in January, get last paycheck and extras next week, was only there 18 months so no redundancy but they've given me about 2months pay on top anyway.

I have been applying since Feb, over 50 jobs applied to, about 8 interviews so far, 3 to final stage (only one of which got back to me to tell me I hadn't got it). TBH, it's a lot better than when I was made redundant 12 years ago and could barely find a thing to apply to, like maybe one a week. That took me 6 months so when I started getting more interviews this time I thought it might not be long but now I'm not so sure as it's so competitive right now.

The most annoying thing is that at least 80% of adverts don't state salary and I'm not in a field that has well-reported salary averages or very standard job titles, so the same sort of job might pay £15k less than I've just been on or £10k more, I just have to guess by size and type of organisation and I suspect at least half of the jobs I've applied for pay way less than I want, but I have to keep going because sometimes they do pay more than you expect.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 25/04/2024 18:32

livingnight · 25/04/2024 07:54

@Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain good luck you're gonna smash it 💥

Heard back today, I got down to the last 2 so it was very close but the other person edged it.

In my defence, I was suffering from bad hayfever/a cold too - I think it's bad hayfever actually, but I did well regardless as I was there 45 mins and approx 40 mins in a 30 min interview so when it overruns I find that's always a good sign.

I now need to amend my permanent work CV - a recruiter amended the temp contract one, but the permanent one needs doing too. Not sure how to do that so will have to focus.

And then it's back to registering on job sites and applying for jobs but not the quick way through Linked In - directly to the company.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 25/04/2024 18:33

InfoComet · 25/04/2024 17:08

I'm seriously considering becoming a post(wo)man.

Are they hiring for those posts at the moment?

InfoComet · 25/04/2024 18:48

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 25/04/2024 18:33

Are they hiring for those posts at the moment?

Yep, it's about a 7th of my usual salary though...

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 25/04/2024 18:49

Not sure if I've told anyone this but thought it might help.

My ex colleague who used to work in banking (basically helping customers with personal/business banking needs for one bank but she did very well, rather than for a big City bank and then was EA/PA for same bank) over Covid joined central gov dept as EA to a Director partly because her son became seriously ill and she needed time off and better work/life balance to take him to appointments but also, I think she was finding the corp world hard going.

So, we used to have discussions about work and job hunting. She had a similar story to me. A company (surveying, big), rang me up (their HR) out of the blue and said a role was available at their offices, could I interview there in person? It was local. I did a good interview but it was a strange one, as I was given a test to do there, which I did, but their IT/logo/package for the test was like something from 10-15 years ago and involved me doing a lot of work (maybe part of the test?) to rectify this, as well as doing the actual test document itself. Which I did point out to them when someone said 'had I had enough time to do this?' (as a criticism to me). Anyway, when I got a 'no' from them their reasoning was, they had looked at figures and headcount and had honestly decided they could cope with the staff they had at the moment, which sounded a valid reason, even if it was true or not. It was a bit irritating for me though, as was an in person interview, and I drove and paid parking charges to park there (in a city centre).

When I mentioned this to my ex-colleague she said she'd been told exactly the same reason for her not getting a job she went for, so she believed this was a valid reason some companies would use, and therefore not a lie.

She also told me though, she'd been for a total of 5-6 interviews (about 1-2 via Teams, the rest, including tests in person) for a company something I think to do with healthcare but almost like a start up, but not quite. A very good job with lots of perks and one she was keen on. But they didn't seem interested in hearing any of her opinions/views at interview with how to work with her boss, if she was interested in the company and what they did, which she thought was a bit strange. And as an EA (executive assistant) you're responsible for managing the schedules and communications of key executives in their company and prioritise emails, phone calls and arranging meetings and business events but you're also the executive’s “right-hand person” who enables them to advance company initiatives and goals, from my experience anyway, it's a lot more in-depth than just managing diaries etc. You have to have a real knowledge of what the exec does and of course the company.

But anyway, I told her (quite honestly as she told me after she'd been rejected for this role) that I would never go for a role which involved that many interviews, nor the fact that they didn't want her input etc, so said she'd had a lucky escape.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 25/04/2024 18:50

InfoComet · 25/04/2024 18:48

Yep, it's about a 7th of my usual salary though...

It depends, could you do it? Could you do it for a short period whilst you look for other work?

Echobelly · 25/04/2024 18:51

I am wondering about any temp type jobs I might do in case this takes some time? Last time I was redundant I had and toddler and a pre-schooler I couldn't just take any old job as it had to cover childcare, but now I have two secondary school kids I could in theory take some crappy job that brings in more than JSA, which I'll start looking into applying for next week when I am officially unemployed.

I am very lucky in that we have no mortgage and I do have savings but I'd rather not go into them but the JSA would help to meet some weekly costs and help me eke out what I get from my employer without having to live too miserably.

mesadface · 25/04/2024 21:04

Just an update on my side.I took an it contract offer which pays half of my last one just to get through this difficult time.So if you guys can afford it I would highly advise this .

InfoComet · 01/05/2024 15:02

I've had a few more positive leads in the past week, including one of the recruiters that ghosted me previously...

livingnight · 01/05/2024 18:25

InfoComet · 01/05/2024 15:02

I've had a few more positive leads in the past week, including one of the recruiters that ghosted me previously...

You know about recruiters ghosting. Personally i would say thanks but no thanks. Unless you're really interested in a role with them.

How's everyone doing ?

Echobelly · 01/05/2024 18:30

I now have 3 interviews next week, 2 final stage, my brain's kind of all over the place trying to prioritise what to do.

I've also seen an ad wanting writers to feed stuff in to AI on a sort of zero hours, minimum 4 hours a week basis and might apply so that if nothing comes through soon, that might tide me over, and maybe I could even keep it up for a bit as an extra income source.

byteme1011 · 01/05/2024 21:18

@Echobelly 2 final stage interviews is incredible!! take a deep breath before they start and have notes to prompt you

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 02/05/2024 18:15

This was me a few years ago. I was self-employed and my work fell off during the pandemic and then moved online, then dried up.

I felt like I was losing my mind during the year plus that I was applying for jobs. Exactly what people describe, spending ages crafting applications, preparing presentations, preparing answers and every single time the feedback was someone else had more relevant skills and experience.

I did eventually secure a job (that no-one else applied for!) and I'm back in the market again, but not feeling so desperate. I would say that I was on a similar thread at the time and most people got jobs before me, actually quite quickly, so there is reason to be hopeful.

It's bloody tough though. It definitely affected my mental health quite severely. Best of luck to everyone.

livingnight · 02/05/2024 18:48

I'm not gonna lie I keep getting to finial two and keep coming being beaten to the post by someone having extra knowledge of (insert obscure skill never mentioned on job description) this has happened three times. I must be doing something wrong

I thought I had gotten close to getting a offer on my forth - hiring manager said I would hear back by end of the week (3rd interview earlier that) week) radio silence I reach out on Monday to then they apologised and said they would be in touch the next day with a update and now radio silence.
I would prefer them to say no thank you instead of this we defo let you know by x and don't. If I don't hear back tomorrow it's bank holiday weekend and it would have been 3 +weeks no update 😔

I know they say apply and move on hard when you put so much time effort and energy and the ghost you not even a no thanks email.

This was after a 3 stage interview with all the bells presentations and whistles at a big company

Gahhh it must be me what could I be doing wrong.

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 02/05/2024 18:54

It's not you, it's just an unlucky run. I hate the ghosting, especially after you've already jumped through a few hoops.

Everything crossed for you, it's so hard.

InfoComet · 04/05/2024 17:55

I've seen a promising job this week, it's mostly remote with a couple of days a month in London so just investigating how feasible that is. Time wise it's not an issue but it's £££ to get into London before 9am.

I've done London one day a week previously as a contractor but the cost was less of a consideration then.

InfoComet · 07/05/2024 10:37

Feedback that you're over qualified after an informal chat is the worst - it's not like it's anything you can change!

livingnight · 07/05/2024 16:14

InfoComet · 07/05/2024 10:37

Feedback that you're over qualified after an informal chat is the worst - it's not like it's anything you can change!

I have had this when I have gotten past2 interviews.

Really annoying.

I have been ghosted by my last company. Finial stages assurances I would hear back 2 weeks ago by hr.

What on earth is happening!!

InfoComet · 15/05/2024 14:20

I've been broadening my search in light of the dearth of opportunities and it's fairly depressing. Developer roles asking for experience and offering 23-25k a year!! Is that not what minimum wage is these days?

Echobelly · 15/05/2024 14:37

DH has been working on his own software product for nearly two years and living off savings but has been trying to get another project management contract so he can cover the cost of marketing and launching, but he's discovered that the market for his roles seems to have vanished. Can hardly get through to agents, daily rates much lower and when he does get through to agents they are saying that applying is so easy they are getting 100s of applications, most of which are not at all suitable, for everything. This is not ideal with me unemployed as well but thankfully we have no mortgage and a lot of savings if it comes to it. I am getting to the stage of worrying about money as I really don't want to break into my savings and given I'd only been at my last job 18 months I don't have a redundancy package, albeit enough to live off for 3-4 months if I keep spending to a minimum.

Thank God we have a very cheap summer holiday booked this year, staying at my parents' place in Eastern Europe.

Still no word from last week's interviews, but I think today is about the earliest day I might hear - if I haven't heard by Friday will assume no, but have since had two prospective roles with the same business open up. They need a few people so it's promising. New career direction I've not done before but am interested in - good skills match and good money.

IDontHateRainbows · 15/05/2024 15:28

I'm going back on the market as my fixed term contract is coming to an end. It's been awful, treated like dirt and learned nothing so I'm in serious danger of getting rusty now. The only good thing was the pay. Been told there is nothing like that salary range available now, roles available are 10k less. I will have to take something like this on a fixed term basis just to keep my hand in and hope I can get some more skills/experience to leverage in the hopes of the permanent market improving in six months or so. It's not what I would have predicted for myself in my late 40s after 24 years in this profession. Feels like I have barely anything to show for all those years.

DP is struggling to get anything in the IT field as well - we have income from a property to keep us afloat but only barely - and daren't think about any big spends for a long while now.

InfoComet · 15/05/2024 17:16

It's not what I would have predicted for myself in my late 40s after 24 years in this profession

I feel you there. I'm mid 40s and I'm currently considering roles at the level I was at 15 years ago. Major imposter syndrome now, thinking the last 10 years was just some sort of fluke.

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 15/05/2024 21:44

I had exactly this a couple of years ago. Twenty years experience and I had no problem getting interviews, but was constantly told that 'someone else had better skills and experience'.

I spent too much time on Linkedin wondering how people who had just entered the field were getting all these promotions, when I couldn't get a look in.

I did eventually manage to move sideways (was in my early 50s) and it's okay, but not something that I can imagine myself doing for the next more-than-a-decade, so back in the market again.

LucyLatimer · 17/05/2024 08:42

Just came back to say that things have really changed. I have been looking for work every day since last September when I got made. I have received 3 offers this week, I cannot believe it. Good luck x

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 17/05/2024 17:51

That's wonderful news, Lucy! So many congratulations.

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