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New employer - promotion mentioned at interview

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speckledten · 08/02/2024 09:02

I was recently offered a role I'd interviewed for, it's an entry level role in a function notoriously difficult to get into without any experience. It often sees graduates, with a degree in the subject, going for these circa 20k a year.

The interview went very well, I have a year's experience doing a similar role in a much larger company. It may even be a slight 'step down' as the job title is slightly more junior but I feel as though I was stagnating in my previous role. There was no opportunity to get involved with any other projects or anything that would have expanded my skill set and therefore no clear progression. For reference, the wider team at my previous employer was around 10-15, in the new company it is only a manager and a specialist (in an area different to what id like to progress in) in the team.

I'd like to be able to take the "next step up" per se, and was forthcoming with this at the interview, showing my eagerness to learn. I'm self funding the next level of training recognised by the industry which would hopefully get me to that level.

The hiring manager tried to steer me away from this level, stating that the one below would be more suited and that I would find the one I've enrolled on too challenging. She said this kindly. All providers I had spoken to had agreed that this was the correct level for me however due to having experience.

At interview, the hiring manager stated she was building the team up (she is relatively new to the company herself) and that she would see my role 'evolving' to the post higher within the next 6 months & she'd be bringing in another person at my current level during this time. She'd also stated she was looking for someone with less experience to mold and mentor/teach which has made this role more attractive to me as I'm hoping working within a smaller team may mean I'll have more opportunity to get involved.

She may well be telling me what I'd like to hear as she stated she'd like to be honest and that for the time being the main function of the role was to assist in a large administrative task. This is not an issue for me, I'm willing to put the work in but will need an employer that can support me in the qualification in terms of exposure to certain processes etc.

Does anyone have experience of this information being volunteered at the interview stage? Fwiw, it was advertised as a FTC but when offered she told me she'd like to offer it on a perm basis now.

If the opportunity is there, I'd do what I can to stand out but concerned it won't materialise at all. Has anyone got any tips on this please?

Apologies for the long read, thank you if you've made it to the end Smile

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Hipnotised · 08/02/2024 12:59

I'd want that in writing and I'd actually be wary of moving to a smaller team as usually there's far less movement.

Aprilx · 09/02/2024 08:56

It all sounds a bit wish washy and there is no way you are going to get anything in writing about how the role is going to develop.

The trouble is it sounds like you were talking about the next role rather than the role on offer. It is of course good to demonstrate your desire to progress, but I do think when you interview for a job you need to show interest in that job not the next one.

To be honest, I think maybe you need another conversation and keep it a bit more in the right now. If you don’t want to do that, then you have to risk it (or not).

PutMyFootIn · 09/02/2024 08:58

It just sounds like jam tomorrow.

wishy washy potential promises to entice you into a low paying role that she needs covering now.

I wouldn't. Not for £20k. Is that even minimum wage?

ChateauMargaux · 09/02/2024 10:17

The role is to assist in a large administrative task. It is a step down. She does not believe you have the level required to take the next qualification. She is building the team and will be recruiting others in the next few months.

This could work in your favour and you might get promoted within 6 months or it could leave you in an admin role, no supported training and someone else coming in at a level above you.

speckledten · 09/02/2024 11:20

Agreed that it is all very wishy washy. In terms of salary, I negotiated a higher salary than offered at interview, an increase of 30% from what I was on at my previous company.

The hours and location are very convenient for me, in addition to the higher salary.

As it stands, I'd be no way qualified for the higher level role and although the qualification may help you to get a foot in the door, it's something that often requires experience.

It feels a bit catch 22 - showing commitment to further study may work in my favour.

Thank you for all of your responsesSmile

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ChateauMargaux · 09/02/2024 11:27

A 30% increase from your current salary is good though...

speckledten · 09/02/2024 12:14

@ChateauMargaux

I was on 20k in a trainee role, judging by other job adverts the going rate seems to be 22-26 dependent on experience.

The qualification itself will cost 4k so wanted to ensure I'd be able to afford it. As I mentioned though, I may struggle to get through it if there's not much opportunity to get involved in projects outside of my job spec, hence bringing this up at the interview stage.

The manager assured me there would be, and of course I'd ensure this was in addition to day to day duties.

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speckledten · 09/02/2024 12:17

@ChateauMargaux

In response to your earlier post, I agree that she doesn't believe I'm at the level to take the next qualification.

Do you have any tips to help this work in my favour?

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ohididntrealise · 09/02/2024 12:33

I understand you want to stay anonymous, but I think you would get better advice if you stated what the industry / job is.

Change some other details for anonymity if you want, but there are some knowledgable people on here. Give them the best chance of giving you good advice.

Also, I'd be asking them to fund your studies.

speckledten · 09/02/2024 13:12

@ohididntrealise

I'm very paranoid about employer finding this haha but can't be vague and expect support.

It's an administrative position in HR, was previously an HR Assistant.

The qualification is the CIPD Level 5

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