Police Vetting Question

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Hi All,

I've posted on here in hopes of getting an actual answer instead of berated for my life choices.

The facts:

My partner was acused of rape a few years back, arrested, questioned, dropped due to lack of evidence. I believe he is innocent, but thats irrelevant.

My family do not know about this.

My Brother is a Sageant in a local police force (different county) and i am worried whether this will appear during his next vetting process.

For clarification, we live together, have a child together but are not married.

Will he need to be included on the vetting? Will this show up and be disclosed to my brother?

Thank you for any help.

You need to tell your brother and he needs to disclose it in advance of vetting.

Can you contact someone and ask?
Your brother can not disclose your partners history to your family.

He won't/shouldn't disclose to family but he needs to disclose it to work and asap.

If you're so sure he is innocent then surely it won't matter?

You need to tell your brother for the vetting.

What your partner told you to believe him he's innocent, you can tell or he can tell your brother. Are you worried they won't believe him? Is there a reason not to believe him?

It would depend firstly on his vetting level. If he’s a uniform sergeant he isn’t going to have a special vetting level ( unless he works on a specialist unit of some kind). Even if he has a higher vetting level he doesn’t need to disclose offences he would disclose name address and date of birth etc required on the form and they do the research. I don’t know if it would extend to your partner - probably at the highest level but that would be for quite secret work like anti terrorism.

I don't think anyone who has answered her actually knows whether or not this alleged crime will be associated with your brother for work purposes. You need to query this with the police, preferably someone involved in your partners case
As for being berated for your life choices, no on has the right to do that, they don't know the full story and I assume you do. I won't lie though, I feel very sorry for you, this won't be the end, I get the feeling there will be more to come

Vetting isn’t being asked what offences your family have committed it’s about telling them who your family are and revealing your social media and finances etc. They do all the digging around. At the highest levels you are interviewed about your life. If he’s a bog standard sergeant then he doesn’t have to do that.

Thank you all for your responses. My main question I guess is will my partner need to be included on the vetting form? Either married or not. I don’t know whether in laws count.

There is no reason not to believe him, I have overheard (on loud speaker) conversations with the investigating officer dealing with the alleged crime and feel very comfortable with the story told both by my partner and overheard from the case detective.

I am worried because of the connotations it has. Those accused have had this stick for life, even if proven innocent. It is one of those awful accusations that destroy lives even without any truth behind it.

If it comes to it, I will tell my brother. He is very logical and practical. I would just rather have kept it within my four walls if I had the t option, but I do not want my brothers job at risk because I’m trying to keep this from entering the light within my family.

If he doesn't know about it then he doesn't need to disclose it. It may or may not show up but very unlikely to stop him from getting a job.

My main question I guess is will my partner need to be included on the vetting form?

what kind of work does your brother do in the police?

Surely if your BF was never charged, then there's nothing to actually declare?

I’m in Scotland so might be different but my husband is in the Police and they only vetted me, his parents and his brother, none of my family.

They didn’t include his brother’s wife.

Thank you for your help.

I am not actually sure what department he is in currently. It used to women and Children’s crimes, but did change to Response Sargent. It could be that he transferred back to Women’s and Children's crimes. He used to be the investigating officer for rape cases, ironically enough.

Correct there was no charge, but I know it will be on his record. Officially no crime has took place, but the accusation will be on there.

correct my brother doesn’t know so can’t disclose what he doesn’t know. If he does need to disclose my partners details he will need to ask for them as I doubt he knows his DOB etc - so I guess I will evaluate the situation then.

thank you all for your help, it truely has been appreciated.

I'd seriously consider telling your brother because he can disclose it and it won't ever come back to bite him. Particularly as police powers have changed again and officers can be sacked through failing vetting unless they can prove exceptional circumstances.

It doesn't matter if you know the truth and there was no crime. Public trust in police is at an all time low and the headline will be "officer in charge of investigating rape, of course had a brother in law get off on a rape charge". It then puts every rape your brother investigated under scrutiny. He can quietly declare it now and you could prevent all manner of problems for your brother in the future.

I understand, thank you.

Police Vetting - I’m due to fill out my vetting forms soon and I’m worried about failing because of my cousin who was sent down for armed robbery 15 years ago. I’m not in touch with him but obviously need to declare it.

I know it’s case to case and depends but has anyone been in similar position and passed it?

I’ve been cautioned 2 times for drunk and disorderly (over 15 years ago)

Cousin sent down for armed robbery over 15 years ago.

my wife’s father was done for fraud over 25 years ago.

whats my chances after declaring these.?

nice one