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Where can I find a very traditional office environment?

121 replies

FloorWipes · 10/08/2023 09:28

I used to love my job but I’m about to lose it with our hybrid flexible system and everyone doing their own thing and some people taking the p. Fine for them, live your best life, whatever, but absolutely not working for me on any level and I am so so over it. I want a traditional 9 to 5 where we all come in and everyone has their own desk. What industry is my best bet for that in 2023?

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CharlotteStreetW1 · 10/08/2023 14:04

TeleTropes · 10/08/2023 10:52

I would rule out legal too, unless it is very small with a branch open to the public. Most legal firms I work with nowadays are hybrid.

High Street solicitors.

I love it 😊

FunnysInLaJardin · 10/08/2023 14:05

I work in a small law firm of about 20 staff and we all work from the office. No hybrid working unless you absolutely have to.

Much prefer seeing my colleagues and being in an office tbh

LadinLee · 10/08/2023 14:38

Estate agents, GP surgery

BobbinThreadbare123 · 10/08/2023 14:40

Anything that has a security or data classification aspect ie you actually can't take your work off-site

overitunderit · 10/08/2023 14:41

I think a lot of sales jobs require office time.

FloorWipes · 10/08/2023 14:43

I can't probably say exactly what I do. It involves admin and quite a lot of writing as well. I've got a couple of bachelors degrees and I would like to think a lot of transferable skills. I'm in Scotland if that helps.

Thank you for clarifying the roles that actually aren't office based though one might think they are!

Some good suggestions. Appreciate them!

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Svalberg · 10/08/2023 14:46

Whataretheodds · 10/08/2023 10:05

It's not quite 'office' but anything where the product or service has to be delivered in person - so healthcare, wellbeing and beauty, retail, education, construction, possibly barrister's chambers?

Some of the big banks and smaller finance houses/hedge funds have been emphatic about expecting staff to be in the office most days but you may not get 9-5.

Construction you'd generally have to move office location (and employer possibly) when the project was delivered

FloorWipes · 10/08/2023 16:15

Moving office location infrequently sounds manageable.

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FortyFacedFuckers · 10/08/2023 16:22

Where I work in the nhs is like that, although I know some departments do hybrid working

converseandjeans · 10/08/2023 16:33

Education, NHS, tourist office, hotel chain are ones I can think of.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 10/08/2023 17:04

RoachFish · 10/08/2023 09:52

Maybe an admin job at the council or in a bank?

A lot of council roles are hybrid and even though there will be a rota around covering phones , reception desk etc most LA roles have flexi time to some extent .

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 10/08/2023 17:07

BobbinThreadbare123 · 10/08/2023 14:40

Anything that has a security or data classification aspect ie you actually can't take your work off-site

Secure servers ?

Q2C4 · 10/08/2023 21:07

Marmite27 · 10/08/2023 10:32

I wouldn’t say banking, unless in a branch, then it’s more customer facing tasks than traditional admin.

Everyone I know who works for banks is fully WFH or hybrid.

Certain critical functions eg Treasury have to be in the office 5 days per week.

Notjustamum10 · 10/08/2023 23:04

Try an office manager role or admin / finance for a small business - consultants, accountants, solicitors, surveyors, architects, etc. They often have some staff out meeting clients / on site through the day but need core office staff on regular hours in the office.

Or would you prefer somewhere with a constant full-time team around you?

Croissantsandpistachio · 10/08/2023 23:13

Hospitality? Admin in a hotel or similar? Estate agents always seem to be in the office.

Some parts of Whitehall (but others very much not).

PippaAB · 10/08/2023 23:18

Re the food manufacturer, my sister works in Finance in one well known brand and they never went back to work in the office since Covid. She just goes in the odd day.

Check job adds - some specifically say 100% office based. Or with recruitment agencies- they will be the roles no one wants to work!

PippaAB · 10/08/2023 23:19

I also worked from home as an Office Manager...it's a hybrid role now.

Ralye · 11/08/2023 08:01

I feel you op, people are very defensive about any negative comment about wfh but I agree there's no office culture/camaderie, it's boring and isolating. Try some of the more front facing nhs/a&e admin type roles. Ask to have a visit maybe if you apply? Good luck!

Crabwoman · 11/08/2023 08:08

RoachFish · 10/08/2023 09:52

Maybe an admin job at the council or in a bank?

Almost all Council jobs are hybrid now unless required to be 'on site' such as leisure centre receptionist, parks maintenence etc.

We also have flexible hours so not a traditional 9-5.

BobbinThreadbare123 · 11/08/2023 08:11

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 10/08/2023 17:07

Secure servers ?

Yes, or MoD/defence/security/nuclear type sector.

Twilightstarbright · 11/08/2023 08:26

My friend is an architect for a huge firm and they are expected in 5 days a week.

I’m looking for work at the moment and lots of local companies want some one in the office 5 days, even for admin roles which could be done from home and they are quite clear about this in the advert.

FloorWipes · 11/08/2023 09:52

I’m intrigued by the secure servers type ideas!

It helps to know from a couple of people that I’m not entirely alone in feeling this way.

In my current job I am generally in the office 5 days as it’s up to me, and I’m responsible for various aspects of the physical office like stock and such. Usually I’m not alone when I’m in. So that might seem to be an ok set up.

But actually the erratic nature of other people’s working patterns just doesn’t work for me. It’s too discombobulating. Moreover we don’t get to do the kind of collaborative information sharing we used to and I can’t comment on other people’s work but I’m sure mine suffers for this. A lot of information sharing now falls to me alone as I am the link between all the people whose paths never cross. Also things need to be much more carefully planned because people are working odd days and hours, and that planning takes up all this extra time which I can’t seem to conjure from anywhere. We then have meetings that are a pure waste of time as they don’t compensate for lost ongoing communication. And too many emails. It’s all in all a nightmare for me.

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PippaAB · 11/08/2023 13:20

Sounds like you need better systems in place - for communicating, planning etc. Shared calendars for scheduling meetings, groups for sharing information, some set team meeting times etc. It shouldn't be on one person to verbally pass on the same information to a large number of people, that is so time consuming and inefficient.

OnGoldenPond · 11/08/2023 14:00

RoachFish · 10/08/2023 09:52

Maybe an admin job at the council or in a bank?

Most council office functions seem to be working from home even now so probably won't offer what you are after. Public sector are probably the most resistant to returning to the office.

OnGoldenPond · 11/08/2023 14:12

mast0650 · 10/08/2023 11:31

Not sure what kind of "office work" you are looking for.
I work in an Oxbridge College and as far as I can tell most of the administrative staff work 9-5 at their own desks with colleagues nearby, with some flexibility for a little bit of working at home if needed.

Think it's quite variable in Highet Education.

I'm in finance in large London university and a lot of the admin departments worked mostly from home until very recently. There is now a drive to get everyone hybrid with at least 3 days per week in the office. However they also need to free up more office space so the only options available are desk sharing or hot desking. No one has their own desk any more.