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I should be paying tax, what on earth do I do?

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Stressybessyboo · 26/07/2023 11:17

Name changed just in case!
I work in education part time during school hours (Job A) and as our mortgage has just increased significantly I've picked up some shifts at a local pub evenings and weekends.
I've worked for the pub/landlord before. When I started a few months ago he asked me to write down all my details which I did, and I wrote on the bottom I think I will need to be on a BR tax code as my personal allowance is used up in job A. Weekly pay goes in each Friday but I haven't been getting payslips. I keep a record of my hours and it dawned on me that each pay packet was hours worked x 10.5. a very round number! I assumed that he was paying me £10.50 an hour and I wasn't being taxed so I asked for my payslips about 4 weeks ago. I've asked for them several times since but I've not yet got them despite him saying he'll send them over. I spoke to his wife in the week and explained the situation and said I'm worried I'm running up quite a tax bill and I'm not sure what will happen. She said she'd have to speak to the accountant but I'm still no further forward. What do I do!?

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TokyoSushi · 26/07/2023 11:19

I'd wonder if you're even on the books or if they've set you up for tax which might explain why the payslips aren't forthcoming...

AppleKatie · 26/07/2023 11:21

They aren’t paying you properly OP. Just bank transferring the money.

you need advice (professional not from MN) as to whether you or they are liable for this.

on a side note, did you not agree an hourly rate with them when you started?

MoustacheTwirler · 26/07/2023 11:22

I suspect you might not be on the books and are being paid "cash in hand"

Spirallingdownwards · 26/07/2023 11:24

For a start put 20 or 40% away to pay the tax due from whatever you earn depending on what rate you pay until it is sorted out.

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Stressybessyboo · 26/07/2023 11:28

@AppleKatie no I didn't agree an hourly rate which was so silly of me. I was sort of desperate for the job, I'd asked if they'd take me on but the couldn't. I had other interviews lined up but he called me out if the blue and said someone had handed their notice in so I could start in a week. I took the offer up straight away. I wouldn't have taken it if I'd have known it was £10.50 an hour! Once I've got this sorted I will definitely be leaving as I've had other offers for much fairer pay.

That's my fear that I'm not on the books, but the account he's paying me from is the same account that my colleagues show in her bank account, and she has had payslips previously (though she's had to fight for them and she no longer gets them unless she asks several times).

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Newshoess · 26/07/2023 11:35

If you get a higher paying job you will be taxed more so just remember, if you are desperate for the money..

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Stressybessyboo · 26/07/2023 11:38

Newshoess · 26/07/2023 11:35

If you get a higher paying job you will be taxed more so just remember, if you are desperate for the money..

It's not that I'm desperate for the money at all. It's just some extra income helping us as a young family as our mortgage has gone up. Of course if I take a higher paying job I'll may more tax but it would still increase my take home pay so it would still be beneficial :)

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Stressybessyboo · 26/07/2023 11:40

When I said in an earlier post I was desperate for the job it's because I love the people there and the work, it wasn't that I was desperate for the money if that makes sense!

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Tatzelwyrm · 26/07/2023 12:04

They are breaking the law by not providing payslips providing you are an employee

Payslips: employee rights
Your employer must provide you with a payslip.
They do not have to do this if you’re:

Your payslips can be used as proof of your earnings, tax paid and any pension contributions. Employers can choose whether they provide printed or electronic (online) payslips. Payslips must be provided on or before payday. What should be on your payslipYour payslip must show:
  • your earnings before and after any deductions
  • the amount of any deductions that may change each time you’re paid, for example tax and National Insurance
  • the number of hours you worked, if your pay varies depending on time worked

https://www.gov.uk/payslips

Employment status

Employment status (worker, employee, self-employed, director or contractor) affects employment rights and employer responsibilities in the workplace

https://www.gov.uk/employment-status/employee

BabylonianChild · 26/07/2023 12:59

The payslips issue makes it sound like you might be cash-in-hand dodgy.

Or… there is a chance they could actually be paying you £12.40, with £1.19 income tax and 71p national insurance, resulting in £10.50 net per hour. This would mean you are underpaying tax as your personal allowance has already been used up in your schooll job - but not as bad as the other scenario.

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 26/07/2023 13:06

OP, log into your hmrc account and see who is listed as your employers. It's here, you need a gov gateway account (same as the one for tax free childcare etc)

https://www.gov.uk/check-income-tax-current-year

Check your Income Tax for the current year

Check your Income Tax, Personal Allowance and tax code for the current tax year. Update details of your income from jobs and pensions.

https://www.gov.uk/check-income-tax-current-year

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