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Caution on dbs - school work

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abitofbother · 06/07/2023 21:24

Ok so I got myself into a small bit of bother by getting into an altercation wuth someone and I ended up with a caution as did the other person

Prior to this I had been looking at ways to increase my income and with 2 young children a job in a school would suit. That being said, if I applied for a TA Role in pretty certain they would dbs me and my caution would show.. would i stand a chance in getting a job like this?

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CandyLeBonBon · 06/07/2023 22:42

abitofbother · 06/07/2023 22:40

I have GCSEs and a levels

So because I have no experience I'll never get s job? Putting the caution aside for a second. How does anyone start off as a TA. Surely we have to start somewhere, do a childcare course etc? This is what I'm unsure of and why I'm asking

There are a range of courses you can do. But you won't get near a TA job with no experience AND no relevant qualifications

PaigeMatthews · 06/07/2023 22:43

Prior to this I had been looking at ways to increase my income and with 2 young children a job in a school would suit.
also this is an issue. What hours are you assuming? On a short hours contracts the days would be longer than school days so you couldn't pick up / drop off without wrap around care. And you could end up paying full price wrap around for only a short amount of time. On a tiny wage.

TA’s and HLTA’s where I work are contracted to be there doing interventions until 4pm.

also, for the money, it is a hard job. You never stop.

Wolfiefan · 06/07/2023 22:51

Childcare isn’t education.
Most TAs I know qualified as teachers first.

User10932 · 06/07/2023 23:02

There are level 3 Teaching Assistant online courses - you’ll have a tutor who will mark all your assessments and most will want to come and observe you working in a school. Or some schools will do it as an apprenticeship (but be warned you’ll only earn £5ph this way).
Alternatively, could you volunteer for a year at your DC school (reading/ doing interventions…) to gain experience (although a lot of schools these days want a qualification.

Cant help on the DBS side, as I have no involvement in the hiring/ interviewing process at my school, but honesty is the best policy. All school applications ask if you have any unspent convictions, tick yes, and briefly tell them why. The limited knowledge I have, is that they want to make sure you’re not a danger to children, so a fight with another adult wouldn’t necessarily mean you don’t have a chance. Good luck

abitofbother · 06/07/2023 23:05

@User10932 thank u that's very helpful

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MadCatLady27 · 06/07/2023 23:23

Depending on the school's recruitment process

You'll fill in the application form, which will ask you to tick to say if you have any criminal convictions, but it's just a tick box at this stage

IF you are shortlisted you'll then be asked to complete a criminal record self declaration which goes into more detail

You'll bring to the interview, the panel will look through it as it'll give them a chance to ask questions about it at the interview.

You'd need to declare it because if you were offered the job they'd need to do a DBS whereupon it would come up and they'd be within their right to rescind their offer.

I cannot speak for other schools though. It'll be down to the HT and panel should you be the best candidate if they were to offer you a job. I'd be worried about impulse control and would imagine you'll be asked how you've reflected on what happened and what you've put in place/done to prevent it from happening again.

As a TA you may be supporting some of the more vulnerable/challenging children

andweallsingalong · 06/07/2023 23:48

It might help if you said what offence you were cautioned for. A public order offence or S39 assault is very different to an assault occasioning actual bodily harm or wounding. The latter 2 very unusual to be cautioned for due to their seriousness, but it does happen.

Either way I'm sorry, but I would expect a recent violent behaviour to fail a DBS.

Nothing to lose by trying though.

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