Any ex nurses able to help with a q about old style training?

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This is going to be very niche but I’m hoping someone might be able to advise!

I qualified as a nurse (RGN part 1 of register) in the early nineties in Scotland. It was the old type College of Nursing 3 year course, pre project 2000, where we were employed and earned a salary. We got our certificate at the end but was not a diploma, nor a degree course. I never followed it up with any further top up courses.
Now, many moons later!, I am working in a completely different field but recently due to potential career development, have been eager to find out what my ancient qualification equates to in terms of SCQF (or RQF)
I have asked the NMC and UCAS (who both suggested asking each other!) I’ve now hit a brick wall and not sure how the heck I can find out.
The college of nursing that ran the course is obviously now long gone and no archived records appear online.
Has anyone out there (I know, long shot!) got this same qualification and if so, have you any idea what it’s worth in todays “market” 😄 Or even any advice of any other organisations that might shed some light. Many thanks in advance for any input

I qualified as an RGN in 1986 not retired still very much working. Do you mean the value of credits it would equate to? In which case I don’t think it has any value. If you mean professional currency then it is still relevant but would need evidence of recent practice and updates

My understanding is any transferable credit have to be used with in 5 years against another course. I just dropped out of 2 years of a masters that I then paused for two back to back maternity leaves and had no transferable credit. It does prove I had the ability to successfully study at that level but otherwise a wasted effort given how life panned out.
I was one of the first P2000's that probably drove you up the wall with my questions 😂

Haha! We were quite envious of the P2Ks when they first appeared! Thank you both. That’s interesting. So what I meant was finding out where roughly it would it lie within the National qualification levels so like on here

Or maybe as you say, it’s just too old 😢 like myself! 😂

mine was just a certificate, RGN

I qualified in 1982, as an SRN which really dates me!

I'll admit I don't know how the SRN training would officially equate to other courses, however I do remember the level of human biology we were taught and examined on was not as a high as A level biology. It was very clear that those of us with A level biology knew much more than our tutor at the time.

Having said that, I managed to blag my way into a now Russell group uni in 1983, with 2 A levels and state registration, so if you're looking for equivalence info to get on to a course you could argue for the RGN to be at A level level.

Mine was just a certificate - RGN. I subsequently went to university and did a degree in a related subject but had to do the full course, so no credits for the nursing qualification were applied. Nurses who had done P2000 joined my degree course in the final (3rd) year and only had to do this one year of study in order to convert their P2000 diploma into a degree.

Thanks Stringbean, this is helpful, and also what I feared. Ah well, I should’ve stuck out and followed it up with my degree.
Thanks everyone for your input

Did you have something specific you were hoping to do?

Even if you can't get credit transfer, your professional experience might be enough to be considered for postgraduate study?

I did my degree in 1989 so I think that is what had value for me. Nurses didn’t have degrees back then. I returned from Mat Leave and was told that I was doing a degree as none of the other hospital sisters wanted to do it and as I was the youngest they had nominated me. I went along with it because it meant one less shift with a new baby. Best thing I did.

Yeah I wondered that too, but would I not be considered to be an undergraduate as I didn’t do any degree/diploma? Just seen a couple of jobs recently that caught my eye and mentioned recruiting applicants with certain SCQF levels of education and wanted to know if it would count in any way. I suppose no harm in trying!

Yeah, you definitely did the right thing! I’m a bit cross with my younger self now 😂

I would have thought level 5? It isn’t level 6, but seems a bit more than level 4 to me.

Sorry I haven’t used MN in a while and I keep trying to reply to individual posts and hitting the general reply instead

Would that be the English level Saschka?

I did mine as a 2 year post grad in 2001, just before the Post-Grad Diploma was a thing. My course was an accelerated advanced diploma, so I think it was classed as level 5.

Bear in mind that you can do Return to Practice at level 5 or 6, so you could do that if you haven't got a current PIN and that would give you evidence of working at that level.

Yeah, I’ve looked at RTP but can’t make the practicalities of the placement hours work atm. Also it would be like teaching a very very old dog some new scary tricks 😂

I did my placement in theatres and they were very accommodating and allowed me to fit in with school runs. Obviously when I finished I got a job that wasn't as flexible, but the course was ok.

I qualified as an RGN/RSCN in 1984 - certificate only! I then did the SCPHN degree in 2002- Specialist Community Public Health Nurse - 1 year full time - my nursing qualification was accredited.

Thought it was an international scale! The one you posted at 18:46.

I was also in the first project 2000 group . Seems like a long time ago . We came out with the RN and diploma in HE