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Dismissed from work today - I don't know what to do

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Strawberriess · 26/05/2023 20:38

I made such a huge error at work and it cost me my job.
I accept liability and made a massive mistake. I work at a drs and a patient had low iron levels and I said I wasn't clinically trained but maybe it might be worth going to the supermarket to buy something fortified with iron so they didn't drop any further - I didn't know I wasn't allowed to suggest something you could buy off the shelf. I would never advise something if I thought I was causing harm. I had the best intentions.
On top of this I've been having trouble with a colleague who is so rude, condescending and snappy. Yesterday I asked a question and she was rude and I said there was no need for it. She has accused me of bullying to the manager.
I went in today and was pulled in to the office and told because I was still on probation my contract was terminated and there was nothing I could do. I've been crying for about 7 hours.
I dont know how this will have an impact moving forward. Putting a patient at risk and bullying sounds awful but not who I am at all. I don't know what to do 😭
I'd been a SAHM for 7 years and this was the first job I applied for and was successful. I've only been there 3 months. I feel like my future is ruined. How can I apply for another job when my reference is going to paint me out to be a monster.

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DaSilvaP · 26/05/2023 21:49

pilates · 26/05/2023 20:42

They can’t give you a bad reference

They definitely can - but most employers won't. They couldn't be bothered to take the risk of a lawsuit by a disgruntled ex-employee.

Easier to just not mention that 3 months.

DozyDelia · 26/05/2023 21:51

It's not likely that any reference will be critical OP.

Most employers avoid negative references. They usually only confirm that person A worked for organisation B between whatever dates.

Prospective employers can read between the lines sometimes but the days of glowing references seem to be long gone.

I don't know if you had any training or even what your role was. If it was reception or admin (where you were giving out test results) it was completely wrong to offer any medical advice. Just because something can be bought over the counter it doesn't mean it's safe for someone to take.

It's really odd that in an admin role you felt it was ok to give unasked for and unqualified advice.

Put this all behind you and no future employer will know about it. You can say it was temporary contract, terminated early.

JaffaCake70 · 26/05/2023 21:51

I agree with everyone who's said don't mention this employment on your CV.

I'm in a position where I recruit staff and can assure you that there's no way of a future employer knowing what you've been up to for the past three months.

So sorry this has happened to you, please mop up your tears and realise that this job wasn't for you. It sounds like you've had a lucky escape to me!

porridgeisbae · 26/05/2023 21:51

Don't mention it OP. No one will find out.

As a PP said, do any random work for a bit so your P45 is from somewhere else or something.

Angliski · 26/05/2023 21:52

Sorry this has happened to you OP. I got let go on probation twice in a row. I was told to just say it wasn’t a fit or the job wasn’t what I expected and it was fine. I got a third job and stayed there happily and successfully :) everyone has something on their job history that they’d prefer wasn’t there.

ItsNotRocketSalad · 26/05/2023 21:53

Strawberriess · 26/05/2023 21:29

@openstop if I thought I'd done wrong or did so intentionally I would have never 'dobbed myself in'.

Yet you're determined to make the same mistake by putting a two month job on your CV.

headstone · 26/05/2023 21:53

everyone makes mistakes OP, even doctors ( quite regularly actually) . It’s a shame they didn’t give adequate training or treat you fairly.

DozyDelia · 26/05/2023 21:53

Those people saying don't mention it- there will be a paper trail from HMRC (and NI) as well as the P45.

Motorina · 26/05/2023 21:54

Strawberriess · 26/05/2023 21:40

To make it even worse I was on a temporary contract and they were going to change it to permanent after 2 months. It all went so wrong so quickly 😩

That's really easy then. "It was a temporary contract and it wasn't extended." No need to go into any details beyond that.

I'm a clinician with best part of 20 years experience. One of my bugbears is non-clinical staff who think they know more than they do giving clinical advice. Seriously, I've gone into major rants about it, because it's unsafe. What you said, in the grand scheme of bad advice from receptionists that I've come across, is way down the trivial end. Had you been in my team we'd be dealing with it as a training issue rather than letting you go. I do think you've had a raw deal.

ItsNotRocketSalad · 26/05/2023 21:55

DozyDelia · 26/05/2023 21:53

Those people saying don't mention it- there will be a paper trail from HMRC (and NI) as well as the P45.

The vast majority of hiring managers will never see either the paper trail or the P45.

Blossomtoes · 26/05/2023 21:56

JaffaCake70 · 26/05/2023 21:51

I agree with everyone who's said don't mention this employment on your CV.

I'm in a position where I recruit staff and can assure you that there's no way of a future employer knowing what you've been up to for the past three months.

So sorry this has happened to you, please mop up your tears and realise that this job wasn't for you. It sounds like you've had a lucky escape to me!

I agree too. Particularly since you’ve been a SAHP. Just never mention it.

Shouldhavelookedatreviews · 26/05/2023 21:56

Kiss backsides together.

As a disabled person as I was expected to make it in walking stick + laptop bag at 08:30 (I understand why many of the disabled can’t or don’t want to work) until at 09:00am a black colleague would make it in, went never tackled. Couldn’t understand why I didn’t want to stick around.

To think mearly selling insurance policies gains me training in sales then to work in claims which should be harder - no way.

Enko · 26/05/2023 21:58

Ive been in your position op though not in a GP surgery. I was let go after I had been there only a week. She claimed I had not packed stuff properly but the only day she had complaints about was the day I wasn't the only one who had packed. (no complaints from the 2 days where I packed alone)

I cried my eyes out that day I was so upset. However, 3 years on I now think "Thank heavens it was a job with no prospects and no way forward. I am in a better place now.

For today Allow yourself to feel sad and cry if you need. Tomorrow time to start over. This sounds like a bad working environment anyway. So likely for the best.

DozyDelia · 26/05/2023 21:58

On top of this I've been having trouble with a colleague who is so rude, condescending and snappy. Yesterday I asked a question and she was rude and I said there was no need for it.

Kindly, OP, this is your side of it.

Playing devil's advocate, you may have come across as less than ideal in the role for some time and the colleague who was rude may have just snapped.

It wasn't a good idea to 'call out' a more senior colleague on their tone or behaviour, no matter how much you felt it was unjustified.

The odds are that a manager would side with them and you'd be the one to be let go.

I'm sorry you are upset which is understandable, but at the same time there are possibly things to learn from the experience.

DozyDelia · 26/05/2023 21:59

ItsNotRocketSalad · 26/05/2023 21:55

The vast majority of hiring managers will never see either the paper trail or the P45.

Really? Why are you so sure?

CreamyFucker · 26/05/2023 22:00

Go to an agency, tell them the truth and they will help you with what to say to future employers

snowydays10 · 26/05/2023 22:00

Sorry to hear you’re going through this, legally the current HR cannot give you a negative or “bad” reference. I assume it’s because they could be sued for liability. Hope that makes you feel a bit better

Esjolaol1973 · 26/05/2023 22:01

@Strawberriess you genuinely sound like a lovely person who was trying to be helpful. Suggesting buying food fortified with iron to someone who has low iron levels is a sensible suggestion.I feel that a decent employer would have used this incident as a learning opportunity and encouraged you to reflect on your mistake .
Dry your tears and look for an employer who actually appreciates you.🌺

WWYDIYWMRN · 26/05/2023 22:03

DozyDelia · 26/05/2023 21:59

Really? Why are you so sure?

Anecdotal but...I never see the paper trail of anyone I offer a job to. HR deal with it all.

Over the last year I've actually interviewed 2 people who had very short spells in GP practices, both said they left because of staff cliques and bullying

Esjolaol1973 · 26/05/2023 22:04

@Strawberriess also hold your head up high for calling out the employer who was rude to you .There is absolutely no excuse for anyone to speak to colleagues in a rude and disrespectful way regardless of their place in the pecking order .

Whatafliberty · 26/05/2023 22:04

OK this also happened to me. Except worse. At my next interview I was totally truthful and explained in full what had happened. Explain that you really thought you were advising for the best BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO WAIT SO LONG FOR FOLLOW UP APPOINTMENTS THESE DAYS and the lady was anxious. I was offered the job from every interview and each time it was commented on that my truthfulness was admired and appreciated. Good luck....they are twats.

Fanlover1122 · 26/05/2023 22:05

For references generally it will be, yes she was here, she left.

it’s easy for me to say - but try not to worry about it.

there are sooooo many jobs out there - you will have a new job in no time!

porridgeisbae · 26/05/2023 22:05

legally the current HR cannot give you a negative or “bad” reference.

@snowydays10 People think this but as a PP said upthread, all that's banned is lying. But a company wouldn't even admit if they were lying- they'd cover their own backs. They'd give their spin/opinion on events.

But honestly @Strawberriess I lied to cover so many holes on my CV. It's standard practice. Friends 'employed' me and wrote me glowing references. Grin

Daisypain · 26/05/2023 22:12

snowydays10 · 26/05/2023 22:00

Sorry to hear you’re going through this, legally the current HR cannot give you a negative or “bad” reference. I assume it’s because they could be sued for liability. Hope that makes you feel a bit better

What rubbish!
If it’s the truth they can say what they like.

OP chin up. It wakes a good fit for you in loads of ways by the sounds of it but you are clearly keen and willing to work hard and those attributes will be valued in the right place.

Stick it on your CV as a getting back to worn temp post find your next role somewhere that won’t ask many questions eg via an an agency or temp role. Go for generic receptionist work again if you enjoyed that aspect. Then keep your eye out for a permanent position you like the look of and go for it with the agency as your reference.

FWIW im also a clinician in a GP surgery and I think you have been treated badly. Training was awful for what is a very complex role with a lot of responsibility. They could have given you a warning and more training and moved on. Sounds like the head receptionist made her feelings known and they didn’t want rich the boat by not letting you say she didn’t want you there so just see it as dodging a bullet!

You can do it. Get contacting agencies next week and you could be in a new role before you know it.

GreatbigWoo · 26/05/2023 22:14

I was let go at 5 months once due to them thinking I was shit. I prob was but so was their non existent ‘training’ for a trainee post. Anyway…I skipped it out on my cv. No one has ever said anything ,even though due to it being a small town, I knew people In the new office new something due to them being friends with some of the old work employees.

With regard to p45 thing, the financial year came to an end so I couldn’t use it anyway. Otherwise I was prepared to say Id lost it or something. I’d moved into the area recently so it was a plausible excuse. I signed on and was unemployed for about 1 month total. I was in the new job about 1 year before moving on and have been in current job almost 7 yrs now. I Don’t care if people know now as I’ve been there over 5 yrs and they won’t care as I only had to list 1 previous employer for reference. And they’d have a hard time filling my post as no one else wants the hassle I have to sort out 😂

During the firing ‘chat’, my old job actually did say they’d give me a reference but if pushed on specifics would say I was terrible at a “shitty boring poorly explained task”. However would say how lovely I was etc. I just didn’t trust them in the end to honour it so left them off the cv.

what I’d do in your situation is sign on with a temp agency/job then use them as your previous employer reference when a proper job you want comes along? Or just put on whatever you did before this current role, especially if in a different town or area. Honestly, at 3 months I don’t think a new employer would expect a reference. You could just say ‘end of contract/contract ended’ and if asked further something generic like it was not the role for you. If pressed further say after a discussion, we agreed to part ways in hope for a better fit, or it didn’t work out as planned.

I did read somewhere on a cv writing advice page, that if a job is 3 months or less, it’s acceptable to leave it off. Not sure if this universally true though.

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