Transferring from UK to Irish Civil Service

[Candoolili]

Hi folks

I have a potential ROI job offer on the way. I’m wondering if anyone out there has transferred from one “civil service” role to another? My specific query concerns the salary scale and whether they will take previous experience into account, be it from an alternative country? I know the CS are notoriously strict on these matters. If I’m not bumped up to the equivalent level on the Irish scale, I’ll be taking a considerable cut.

thanks in advance

C

There is no room for negotiation on CS scales. UK service is not transferable, you're simply a new entrant to the CS, and will be on the first point of the relevant scale.

You're not transferring, there is no facility for that. It's a different job in a different country that is completely unconnected.

You will start at the bottom of the advertised scale. DH just starting new job in CS. Zero flexibility.

Tonnes of scope for promotion though and previous experience will count then.

Its not a transfer so you need to start of the bottom of the relevant payscale

Ah ok. I had my hopes up but realistically figured this might be the case. I’ve heard that they are quite short on this particular skill set so might try raise it with them but it’ll likely be a no go

ROI a completely different country than the UK.

it’s very worrying that you would even ask this question.

Ireland is not UK ‘lite’!

I presume you will only be entitled to the scale of the grade you have been successful in obtaining, I'm sure Wales and Scotland still have salary progression, so I'm not sure if that would mean they would have scope to be more flexible with where you start? And obviously no idea what happens in ROI, but as that is a completely different country one would presume their CS will have completely different rules so it may not be the case you have to start at the bottom?

Basically, we need someone from ROI CS to help

I’m Irish. I had a little chuckle at this, it’s all you can do really.

Fun fact, there is a circular to detail how to use service from UK civil service to go along the steps in irish civil service. I know somebody who found the circular and brought it to peoplepoint/nsso and got bumped up 3 steps.

That is interesting LáBealtaine! I need to do some more research. I’m just genuinely naive about this, how does it work for a teacher for instance who has been in the UK system but moving back to Ireland? Thought it a reasonable query. Given the potential upheaval this will cause in terms of house moves, school moves etc I need to give it serious thought.

Ps, they will only move you along 3 steps max, so if you were at the end of your scale in the uk then you go on to max step 4 of the same grade.
This circular exists but I won't spend hours searching for it. Have a look on gov.ie for circulars

Hmm, teaching is public service not civil service so while uk civil service will bump you along a few steps, im not sure about public service. On Thursday I may have a look for the circular. There are millions of them though 🤪
They do love an ol' circular.

So as a little update, my research shows that “incremental credit” is most definitely “a thing” in both the civil and public service, with Uk/EU experience counting (according to various circulars). It’s dependant on the particular post you are in I reckon though- but worth looking into certainly!

Wow! Glad your research paid off!
What circular was it?

Is that a nerd question if ever I typed one?