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princesssparklepants · 24/03/2023 20:45

Not sure if anyone will know the answer to this....

If someone works in a team of 6 people, all on same level, same job role etc and the company decides they need to make 2 of the 6 roles redundant.... they decide who those 2 people are and put them under notice.
Do they have any obligation to tell those 2 people why they were chosen?

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OdeToBarney · 26/03/2023 09:19

Exactly as @PilchardsonToast says. And I would use their lack of proper consultation to negotiate a better offer. But of course this depends on what they're currently offering. Are you able to say how much above statutory redundancy they're offering OP? Don't forget about the value of any benefits you're going to lose too. If you let us know roughly what they're offering (ie 3/6 months salary, notice, holidays?) people can try and let you know if it's reasonable in the circumstances.

princesssparklepants · 26/03/2023 10:27

They have inc 3 months for benefits and pension

They have listed what statutory is and the enhanced is about 6 x that
But what I'm not sure about is whether the amount listed as enhanced inc the benefits, statutory or if it's in addition too.... it's it very clear.

I will also get any annual leave due - that I need to figure out as I have already taken a few days this year and have more booked to take before my "leave date" and I don't want to end up owing them!

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What2haveforbreakfast · 26/03/2023 13:42

Statutory redundancy pay is also on www.gov.uk

The first 30k is tax free

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princesssparklepants · 05/04/2023 20:48

Just thought I'd post an update....

I spoke to ACAS, they were really helpful.
They said it was not good practice to make everyone aware they were being graded but not "against the law".

They said I was entitled to see my score, the criteria used and the score of others (without names) so I sent an email to HR asking for the above.

There was very little between myself and the next lowest scorer. So I went through the criteria, and pulled examples of where I think I meet the higher criteria.
It would've meant my score raising above the next lowest person.
I didn't do this to try and make someone else lose their job but I felt I'd been marked down unfairly and for my own confidence wanted to argue my point.

I had my 3rd meeting yesterday, and my arguments were all rebuffed, and nothing changed.
So sadly I will be going.
Thanks for everyone's tips it really helped x

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MavisTheMonkey · 05/04/2023 21:41

@princesssparklepants glad ACAS were helpful, but sorry to hear the outcome hasn't changed. Unfortunately once they start the process it's really difficult (nigh on impossible) to get the outcome changed.

Possibly one upside of seeing the scores is that you see how close you were and even that they haven't been accurate with their grading is hopefully that will give you confidence when you look for your next role as you are good at what you do.

Its also likely that you cost more than the person who graded just above you and that was the real decider.

princesssparklepants · 06/04/2023 18:04

Thanks, I knew it was unlikely to change anything, so I wasn't surprised.

It's just infuriating really. There is one other team member who makes nothing but mistakes but because she's not the same level as me she wasn't included in the scoring.

I have a school age child and getting work that pays well and still lets me do school runs is like the holy grail! I'm either going to need work locally, full time (in an office ) to earn half what I am currently earning and DD go to some sort of child care before/after school. Go part time and earn less then a quarter what I do now. Or have to commute into London and have Dd in wrap around child care... and basically never see her during the week.

So much for women having it all. Just infuriating.

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