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Any HLTAs??? New job offer.

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Job4 · 05/03/2023 19:29

I have been offered a HLTA position but the work load for the pay seems a lot, so if there are any current HLTAs or you know of any, then I’d love to know your opinion.

I completed my PGCE in secondary teaching.
I then did a teaching position for a maternity position and as that started coming to an end I was offered a position in the SEND ARB which meant I was able to finish my NQT.

I have absolutely loved working in the ARB and although the behaviour can be quite extreme (violent behaviour - swearing, hitting, kicking, throwing chairs and tables at me etc, locking doors to protect other students, chasing them when they’ve climbed the fence and ran off site etc as well as other non violent behaviours from students with SEND) I truly enjoy it there and I feel I fit in well.

They’ve offered me a FT permanent position for September which I was very excited about but every day it seems I am learning about more things that I’ll have to do as part of my role.
The current HLTAs have warned me about the workload and crap pay and there is a very high staff turnover (which is how I’m doing cover now).

My wage will be £12 an hour but it is pro-rata so I won’t get paid for the holidays and so my actual pay will be a lot less.

The hours are contracted at 8:30-4:30 and I do not get paid for breaks or lunch.
I have to do break duties on a rota which are unpaid and lunch duties on a rota which are paid at £1.50 per duty.

I will be teaching 3 subjects - 1 core, 1 non core and one that is PHSE/life skills.

I will be teaching all day, everyday apart from twice a week which I will get my PPA.

The class sizes are all around 10 students each and with some of the classes I’ll have a TA but some I’ll be on my own.

I’m responsible for all of the lesson planning and marking.

I’m also responsible for all of the exams - setting them and marking them, then sending them off.
And as the previous teacher left suddenly and didn’t leave anything, I’m having to ring up the exam board and try and work out what i’m doing as I have no experience with entry level exams.

There is also no scheme of work.
So i’m having to look through their books to see what they’ve already done then go onto the national curriculum and design a long term lesson plan/curriculum that I can teach.
There are no workbooks or anything that I can follow. I’m mainstream we were told what we’d be teaching and had class workbooks so you at least had a rough idea.

I also have to update their progress every week on an online platform for all 50 students, as well as fill in their EHCPs and writing in their home diaries everyday.

The role is a HLTA but apart from the class sizes, I’ll be doing very similar to a teachers role and I’ll be on less than minimum wage for doing so.

I’m seriously considering not taking it but as I enjoy it there I’m wondering whether to do it for a while to get more experience.

Does anyone know if this is the norm?
Any advice you have would be great!

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Struddlefor1 · 05/03/2023 19:38

No that sounds like far too much responsibility for that rate of pay.

If you’ve got QTS can they employ you as a teacher rather than an HLTA? Sound like they need a teacher.

DoesItMakeYouFeelBetter · 05/03/2023 19:42

If you are a qualified teacher, why are you considering hlta pay?

AlwaysFoldingWashing · 05/03/2023 19:45

can they make you complete duties on unpaid breaks? That doesn't seem right?

Highlyflavouredgravy · 05/03/2023 19:48

Absolutely no.
Hlta us a poisoned chalice- a tiny increase in pay for a lit of responsibility but what you're saying is off the scale. You would be crazy to take it.

Job4 · 05/03/2023 19:51

If you’ve got QTS can they employ you as a teacher rather than an HLTA? Sound like they need a teacher.

They only have HLTAs or TAs and a SENDco, no actual teacher positions.

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Job4 · 05/03/2023 19:56

If you are a qualified teacher, why are you considering hlta pay?

I’m currently doing the job but being paid as a cover teacher wage and so I know the place and the students etc and I really enjoy it there.

The students can be difficult but there’s only about 50 of them and so it’s really nice having such a close relationship with them as you don’t usually get that in mainstream.

I’m also thinking that as they are SEND it’ll look really good on my CV.

I applied for a couple of teaching positions and the interviews are all day and stressful and each time I found out they were giving the position to someone who already worked there and so the thought of not needing to apply and interview for a teaching position is also a positive thing.

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Job4 · 05/03/2023 19:57

can they make you complete duties on unpaid breaks? That doesn't seem right?

The break duties are a part of the contract apparently, whereas the lunch duties can be turned down but it’s frowned upon as another staff member will have to do it instead.

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topcat2014 · 05/03/2023 19:58

Scale point one is going in April, so lowest pay in schools for catering etc will be 10:59 I think.

Not paying for lunch is common in most jobs, but unpaid breaks is poor.

I guess you will be 'expected' to work before/after etc.

Sounds a bit crap..

froomeonthebroom · 05/03/2023 20:01

I'm a TA (not HL) in a mainstream secondary, so no teaching. We get £11.60ph which I think is poor. There is no way on earth I'd consider your job for that wage! It's a teaching job, it should have a teaching salary.

Job4 · 05/03/2023 20:14

I'm a TA (not HL) in a mainstream secondary, so no teaching. We get £11.60ph which I think is poor.

Yes that does put it in perspective of how crap the pay is for the role.

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