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Do people on here wonder how someone like me copes? I earn £12K/year.

275 replies

hekissedmybottom · 17/02/2023 10:27

I grew up poor, single parent on benefits, partied through uni, worked all my life but never got paid much. My highest salary was 28K/year in London as a single woman. Felt absolutely minted.

Now I'm on benefits with a child as a single parent and still feel well off compared to how I grew up.

I think this kind of life is unfathomable to some people on here.

OP posts:
berksandbeyond · 17/02/2023 17:50

DancingOnThinIce73 · 17/02/2023 17:19

I hate these threads because OP has just purposely, massively mislead. With the benefits, the free schools meals, the prescriptions etc etc it adds up to a completely different lifestyle than many people on significantly higher salaries can only dream of.

Yep and her child will probably go to continue this oh so noble family tradition 🤦🏼‍♀️

Fuckityfuckfuck123 · 17/02/2023 17:51

Seems unfathomable to me, my rent alone costs more than you earn a year.
Your earnings would leave my rent in a deficit of £200 pm.
I don't live anywhere luxurious, but I'd be fucked. If you're comfortable, then that's good. I'm glad that life is still OK on a small amount of money.

weRone · 17/02/2023 17:54

what's your WFH freelance job?

bonzaitree · 17/02/2023 17:54

I could just about scrape by on £1,000 per month. My mortgage is only £350, for which I am grateful.

But living on £1000 per month- it’s not a life I would choose and to be honest it’s not one that I’d be happy in. It would limit my options.

i am glad OP feels happy and content in this amount.

Cherryblossoms85 · 17/02/2023 17:54

Yes I absolutely agree. I earn over 10 times that and still find everything unaffordable. I suppose my goalposts are different.

WaddleAway · 17/02/2023 17:57

Cherryblossoms85 · 17/02/2023 17:54

Yes I absolutely agree. I earn over 10 times that and still find everything unaffordable. I suppose my goalposts are different.

What do you find unaffordable?

QuietlyConfident · 17/02/2023 18:01

I have literally no idea what your life is that with those earnings.

Depending on your benefits claims, debts, child maintenance from DC's father, family support, childcare costs, and most crucially your housing costs you could be anything from pretty comfortable to grindingly poor.

Headabovetheparakeet · 17/02/2023 18:02

Cherryblossoms85 · 17/02/2023 17:54

Yes I absolutely agree. I earn over 10 times that and still find everything unaffordable. I suppose my goalposts are different.

You earn more than £120k and find EVERYTHING unaffordable? Really?

MillicentTrilbyHiggins · 17/02/2023 18:03

Cherryblossoms85 · 17/02/2023 17:54

Yes I absolutely agree. I earn over 10 times that and still find everything unaffordable. I suppose my goalposts are different.

Are your goalposts diamond shoes?

Porkandbeans1 · 17/02/2023 18:04

I'm pretty frugal but there's no way I could live on £12k, I can only guess you're not including all benefits.

jmh740 · 17/02/2023 18:07

Where are people getting these benefit figures from? I earn about what op earns, live with my disabled husband (he can't work) and 2 children and with esa pip and tax credits we still don't get the kind of figures people are talking about here, and we have a mortgage so no housing help

berksandbeyond · 17/02/2023 18:08

weRone · 17/02/2023 17:54

what's your WFH freelance job?

It’s probably an MLM 🙈

Cherryblossoms85 · 17/02/2023 18:10

No I don't mean I literally find things unaffordable. I mean that I earned 50k in 2006 and felt like I had heaps of money, lived in central London, nice holidays, eating out etc. Now I earn so much more (admittedly not done the maths on how much in inflation adjusted terms), live a while out in a not very desirable area, and the money seems to disappear. Bloody ski holidays might have something to do with it!

Butchyrestingface · 17/02/2023 18:11

WaddleAway · 17/02/2023 17:57

What do you find unaffordable?

She told you. EVERYTHING. Grin

Ceryneianhind · 17/02/2023 18:14

berksandbeyond · 17/02/2023 18:08

It’s probably an MLM 🙈

Not if she is earning £1k a month

MrBallensWife · 17/02/2023 18:17

MillicentTrilbyHiggins · 17/02/2023 17:26

Assuming OP is on UC (rules are different on tax credits) and earns £12k per year (1k per month) she won't qualify for free school meals, and possibly not for free prescriptions either.

You don't get free school meals if you claim working tax credits.No matter what your income is.

berksandbeyond · 17/02/2023 18:24

Ceryneianhind · 17/02/2023 18:14

Not if she is earning £1k a month

She’s probably earning nothing and the 12k is benefits

Cocobutt · 17/02/2023 18:29

Where are people getting these benefit figures from? I earn about what op earns, live with my disabled husband (he can't work) and 2 children and with esa pip and tax credits we still don't get the kind of figures people are talking about here, and we have a mortgage so no housing help

It’s just to stir people up.

The average single parent on benefits is in total £12k per year.

Even working full time and receiving benefit top ups most people receive less than £20k in total.

Most MNers don’t live in the real world and think people on benefits have it easier than they do on double the amount or more.

I remember cleaning which was my second job and some woman having a go at me that I’m so lucky because I probably get benefits to top up my wages and I don’t get how hard it is because her and her DH ONLY get £45k between them - which was almost 4x the amount I got every year but I somehow had it easier because my child got FSM.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 17/02/2023 18:31

jmh740 · 17/02/2023 18:07

Where are people getting these benefit figures from? I earn about what op earns, live with my disabled husband (he can't work) and 2 children and with esa pip and tax credits we still don't get the kind of figures people are talking about here, and we have a mortgage so no housing help

It'll be because you have a mortgage. If you rented you'd get help with that.

SirChenjins · 17/02/2023 18:36

@Cocobutt so are you saying that posters are stirring the pot and people don’t get benefits packages of £35-40k pa?

Soulstirring · 17/02/2023 18:38

Ylvamoon · 17/02/2023 12:29

But you & your child(ren) are not surviving on 12k ...
You receive to up benefits towards housing and and other basic costs.

And ideally some maintenance from their father

Please add up everything you receive and come back with the actual yearly household income you have!
And them we can talk about being poor ...

This

on min wage you’re working max 20 hours a week?

LondonQueen · 17/02/2023 18:40

If you have benefits on the side it's probably quite simple to live on if you live in a modest area and don't drive a new car, foreign holidays etc. 12k a year on its own would be unimaginable, even without a child.

RedRiverShore3 · 17/02/2023 18:43

Wouldn't OP get housing benefit for rent

MillicentTrilbyHiggins · 17/02/2023 18:44

MrBallensWife · 17/02/2023 18:17

You don't get free school meals if you claim working tax credits.No matter what your income is.

Thanks. I knew it was different but couldn't remember why!
So regardless of which system she is on OP won't qualify for FSM

RedRiverShore3 · 17/02/2023 18:45

Well OP didn't seem to want to chat that much...