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Wishmelucknow · 16/02/2023 17:28

Started a new job nearly a year ago. It was q a troubled dept and I’d come
from a team in another company. In my last company I had an extended team of 28+ and my directs had put me in for an award for my managerial abilities so was v touched and felt I lead teams well. There was a lot of conflict in the teams when I first joined the new company and had tried to smooth things over and create a positive working environment. Yes there has been a lot of change and restructuring of teams but now im finding out a few of them are
trying to find new jobs internally and one person has already left recently so wondering what we are doing wrong. I’ve never come across a team so eager to leave!! We’re also not replacing so it’s not as if we are getting new talent to replace due to cost savings or to re-energise the team. I’m not sure how we turn this around?

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FenghuangHoyan · 16/02/2023 17:33

If they're leaving, it's pay or conditions. Look on Glassdoor to see what people are saying about your place.

My partner is in a place with high staff turnover and that's because of pay, micro managing bosses who don't allow talking and a return to 100% in the office. Mostly it's the bosses and the complete lack of morale and a feeling of being persecuted by their bosses.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 16/02/2023 17:33

I'm not sure I'd take it personally. The combo of Brexit, early retirement after Covid and a long term sickness due long Covid has played havoc with employee retention. Far fewer potential employees than vacancies, lots of progression opportunity if you look - not even very hard

plumduck · 16/02/2023 17:35

Look on Glassdoor. Encourage exit interviews

rubyslippers · 16/02/2023 17:35

Change and restructuring are very unsetlting
it can make people feel insecure and if other things aren’t great - pay and conditions for example - they will look elsewhere
also if people are leaving and not being replaced , then current staff’s workloads must be huge
doesn’t sound great

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 16/02/2023 17:36

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 16/02/2023 17:33

It was the commute for two of us in my department. When you aren't happy about other things (I wasn't, no idea about colleague) the thought 'Why am I getting up at 6am every morning to travel miles to get to a job I don't enjoy any more?' gets more and more unanswerable.

PleaseJustText · 16/02/2023 17:39

We’re also not replacing so it’s not as if we are getting new talent to replace due to cost savings or to re-energise the team.

Do you mean there's a hiring freeze and new vacancies won't be filled?

plumduck · 16/02/2023 17:40

If you're not replacing then everyone's work load will be going up?

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 16/02/2023 17:40

Can you ask them? You could use an anonymous survey if you think they might not give you truthful answers. As everyone has said, it could be pay, conditions, culture or sheer bad luck - or a mixture of these.

Sucessinthenewyear · 16/02/2023 17:40

Ask your staff.

Christmaspyjamas · 16/02/2023 17:42

Could it be good in the sense you're expecting more, setting higher standards??

Christmaspyjamas · 16/02/2023 17:43

Is it the weakest or strongest team members who are looking to leave?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 16/02/2023 17:44

We’re also not replacing

Probably this. If you have staff who for some reason are already unhappy or thinking about leaving then the thought of even more work in addition to their workload and probable (unpaid) overtime can be the final push they need. And it's a bit daft as a management strategy because as more and more leave the workload gets heavier for the ones left, they decide to leave, the workload gets heavier for those left.....

greydeadweight · 16/02/2023 18:20

FenghuangHoyan · 16/02/2023 17:33

If they're leaving, it's pay or conditions. Look on Glassdoor to see what people are saying about your place.

There are loads of reasons why people leave and it's not always to do with pay and conditions.

Reasons we've had people leave:

To expand the breadth of their knowledge in another sector,
To live closer to their home as they planned to have kids.
To stop travelling with work because their wife got pregnant and they thought they should get a job closer to home
To go see the world because they got the wanderlust

Not one left for pay and conditions All bosses are not shit, people have lives outside of work and they make decisions to leave regardless of how well you manage and pay them.

makingarunforit · 16/02/2023 18:20

For me, it's workload and expectations for an average salary. Salary would be okay if I could clock off on time and get an hour for lunch but I rarely do either. It takes it's toll and I am very tired and fed up at the moment.

If people are not being replaced, I would think that is your biggest problem. No amount of fecking fruit bowls and mental health support will help you there. Some of us just want to work our hours with the odd bit of over and above with a bit of give and take. That doesn't seem to the way of the modern workplace as expectations just seem to grow. Fine if you are a 30 something manager at the start of your career wanting to make your mark with no responsibilities. Not fine for the rest of us!!!

FenghuangHoyan · 16/02/2023 18:47

greydeadweight · 16/02/2023 18:20

There are loads of reasons why people leave and it's not always to do with pay and conditions.

Reasons we've had people leave:

Not one left for pay and conditions All bosses are not shit, people have lives outside of work and they make decisions to leave regardless of how well you manage and pay them.

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I was talking about the bosses in my partner's workplace, not every boss. I'm a manager myself, so that would be bloody stupid of me. I thought it was clear from what I wrote.

I was also referring to the Ops situation where they say lots of people are looking to leave. Yes, they could all suddenly have lots of different reasons at the same time that have made them want to leave a job in the middle of a bit very great economic outlook, but I doubt it and from the sounds of things, that bit what the OP is thinking either.

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Wishmelucknow · 21/03/2023 18:27

Thx all. People still leaving and no replacements yet so workload is going up for people. Pay is not the best for our industry. We’re undergoing another restructuring and also placed in another part of the business! My counterpart is ‘off sick’ - she is very much a micro manager and doesn’t take criticism well and there have been reports of bullying from her group. I’ve now lost 5 people out of a group of 10. Reasons given are: one wanting to have a change and do something easier (from Ukr so currently displaced in another EU country - internal move), 2 x better opportunity, 1 x bored in job and moving internally, 1 x more money. It feels v messy .

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Mrsvyvyan · 21/03/2023 18:38

Probably created a toxic culture from not replacing people. So you’ve lost 5 and they’ve not been replaced? Your staff must be burnt out and must be wondering if you even need them.

Chowtime · 21/03/2023 18:39

Well it sounds as if you do know why people are leaving.

Also, I've left plenty of jobs where someone leaves and isn't replaced but their workload dumped onto remaining staff for no extra pay while the owners pocket the difference.. Fuck. That. Shit.

Biscuitlover456 · 21/03/2023 18:44

Are you or HR doing exit interviews with staff?

makingarunforit · 21/03/2023 19:10

5 people out of 10?!

So everyone's workload has effectively doubled? No wonder everyone is leaving.

latetothefisting · 21/03/2023 19:20

Others have hit the nail on the head
The reasons given to date for leaving are all reasonable individually but it's a domino effect - rats deserting a sinking ship etc. Those who were considering going are going to be pushed into it by a) seeing others with the same skills as them getting new jobs so knowing its possible and b) unhappiness at having their own workload drastically increased. I'd be looking for a way out if I was in that team no matter how nice my manager was!

Doesn't sound like anything you personally have done or even can do to mitigate it!

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