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Annual (inflation) rise?

96 replies

Charcol · 06/02/2023 19:26

I assume most jobs get an annual increase, to help reduce the risk of inflation.
In the past these have tended to be 1-2%, as inflation was low.
Now with inflation at circa 10%, are you expecting or been told what you will be getting. 10% would be great obviously, but something tells me most of us wont get anywhere near. - Hence all the striking we are currently seeing across the country.

None the less, wondered what people were getting / expecting ?

I am in manufacturing... and unions are currently fighting it out. hopefully for circa 7%. Which would be good.

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Quveas · 07/02/2023 08:04

@thestealthwee "That's why I don't support strikes. Private sector doesn't pay inflation level pay rises so why should public sector"

Can you let me know which parts of the public sector get infation level pay rises? Because I want a job there. There public sector rises mean I am, in real terms, paid less than I was 12 years ago.

And btw, train drivers aren't public sector - the railway companies were privatised decades ago, or didn't you notice that?

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 07/02/2023 08:07

My employer us budgeting for a 5% increase, however it provides an essential and regulated service which is having a 7% rise brought in as of 1 April.

Which means any of its staff who use that service will basically lose money.

Lavendersquare · 07/02/2023 08:49

thestealthwee · 06/02/2023 19:45

Construction services and I got 6%

That's why I don't support strikes. Private sector doesn't pay inflation level pay rises so why should public sector - especially train drivers - they've had above inflation rises for years

Actually public sector employees went years without any pay rises at all, so effectively a pay cut. And secondly no public sector employee has yet to receive a pay award anywhere close to 10%. Most have settled for between 3-7% depending on the sector.

I work in local government and everyone received a flat rate amount of £1950 depending on your grade that worked out at nearly 10% for the lowest paid and 3% for the highest earners. For the majority of people it worked out at around 6% which we were happy with.

The NHS have currently been offered 3% which is dismal and I don't blame them for trying to get a more realistic rise.

So try doing your homework before calling public sector employees greedy.

Showersugar · 07/02/2023 09:01

Public sector, regulated profession. We've had a mixture of 0% and 1% for the past 10 years.

I work in an organisation that once upon a time was very prestigious as you had to have X-amount of years post qualifying experience to get in, but because our pay increases have been even more dire than the rest of our public sector profession most new recruits coming to us now do so taking a pay cut (for more responsibility) - this obviously has an impact on recruitment and retention and that has an impact on safe caseloads.

Would strike in a heartbeat.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about OP.

ToBeOrNotToBee · 07/02/2023 09:13

2% this year.
0% last year.
1% the year before that.

Public sector.

My salary is now a full 20% behind private sector.

I am leaving as soon as I can. I have 15 years skilled, professional experience.

JackRosenberg · 07/02/2023 09:17

I got 10% this year, private sector in tech. I appreciate I am lucky and unusual! Next year I expect it will be more like 3% again, but don't know for sure.

roarfeckingroarr · 07/02/2023 09:30

1%. First pay rise for three years. I work in a heavily unionised industry but management so they don't give a shit.

kitsuneghost · 07/02/2023 14:11

Remember the private sector rises have a fairly skewed average due the minority getting massive pay rises. Most 'shop floor' in the private sector don't get as much as you think. And a probably on less than you think.

People only see their own situation and we have a habit of thinking we are the hardest done too.

kitsuneghost · 07/02/2023 14:14

ToBeOrNotToBee · 07/02/2023 09:13

2% this year.
0% last year.
1% the year before that.

Public sector.

My salary is now a full 20% behind private sector.

I am leaving as soon as I can. I have 15 years skilled, professional experience.

Is this for your specific job?

starlingdarling · 07/02/2023 18:08

kitsuneghost · 07/02/2023 14:11

Remember the private sector rises have a fairly skewed average due the minority getting massive pay rises. Most 'shop floor' in the private sector don't get as much as you think. And a probably on less than you think.

People only see their own situation and we have a habit of thinking we are the hardest done too.

Yeah I've had bigger pay rises in the public sector than I ever did in the private sector. My salary was inching up by a few hundred a year when I worked in the private sector. In the public sector I have set increases each year. My pay band goes up 8 steps from the starting salary and those steps benefit from an increase themselves.

Tribollite · 07/02/2023 19:16

3% private sector.

I'm in favour of higher raise percentages for lower paid workers, otherwise the gap between higher and lower earners just gets wider and wider in real terms.

Charcol · 07/02/2023 20:37

wow thats a healthy rise! That would be ideal! But like many have said, a lot of businesses wouldnt survive with such a high pay rise across board!

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Blablablablaba · 07/02/2023 20:59

Got nothing. Work in civil service so u can see why there's strikes there! I've had mainly 0.5-1% pay increases in the last 8yrs. Everyone was astounded that they had the cheek to give most of us nothing. The very lowest earners got 7-8% but that was to keep them in line with the living wage but they had actually budgeted for 3% across the board. So effectively gave someone else my pay rise!

Most people I know aren't getting big pay increase but least got something. I know someone that works for a bank and they got 12% and that was for everyone! Most folk I know have said they got between 5 and 7.5%

Pencase · 08/02/2023 07:24

Interesting thread - we will decide today on our employee rises. Small private company. I think we might go into double digits for the more junior team members, and less for the more senior ones It will be a difficult heated discussion, lots of things to consider.

Nothighgaprequired · 09/02/2023 06:17

I’m at local authority, we got just shy of 2k last year across the board and 1 extra day holiday. Union are going for 12.7% this year, I think we’ll get around 8%, colleagues think I’m optimistic and more likely 3-4%

Grumpsy · 09/02/2023 07:06

@starlingdarling that increase is just under 17%

LemonLymanDotCom · 09/02/2023 07:24

Private sector recently changed job. Previous job saw a 20% cut throughout covid, and no automatic rises in line with inflation in the previous years of working there.
This year, different job, still private sector, 10% rise in line with inflation.

I feel very grateful, it’s nice to not be living to the edge of my pay packet every month.

Charcol · 10/03/2023 20:56

well the annual rise final figures are out and we didnt quite the 7% we wanted. ended up being 5.75% ( so a bit deflating). But better than nothing I guess.

Have you folks got your figures for 2023?

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notmaryberry · 11/03/2023 07:28

I’m getting 7% this year which I was pleasantly surprised about. My DH is also getting about the same. Both private sector.

Quveas · 11/03/2023 07:53

thestealthwee · 06/02/2023 19:45

Construction services and I got 6%

That's why I don't support strikes. Private sector doesn't pay inflation level pay rises so why should public sector - especially train drivers - they've had above inflation rises for years

The Public sector does not pay inflation level pay rises either, so who the hell do you think is getting them? I haven't had 6% in any year for 13 years, and I won't be getting it this year either. My salary has reduced in real terms by 13% over the last ten years.

And train drivers are not in the public sector and haven't been since 1993 when the Tories sold off the railways to the private sector. So all things considered, it seems that it's the private sector taht are getting the great pay rises - like your 6%. Which might explain why the public sector is struggling to recruit people because they want to work in the private sector. I'm months from retirement, so it makes no difference to me now, but if I were younger I would be out of the public sector too - I would earn much more in the private sector - and despite having worked in the sector because commitment to public services, they are now so ravaged and poorly resourced that I'd tell any younger person not to bother. Caring about what happens to others and a life of service doesn't put food on the table.

Overthebow · 11/03/2023 07:53

lots of people who work in the public sector seem to be under the impression the private sector have had big rises over the last 10 years whilst public sector has stagnated, and are using that to justify why they should get big rises this year. But actually it’s a small part of the private sector who have had this and are skewing it.

Personally I have had decent rises in the private sector, but this has been because I have gone for promotions and taken on more responsibility. If I hadn’t wanted to do that I would have had very small pay rises.

TravellingSpoon · 11/03/2023 07:57

Fleabigg · 06/02/2023 22:54

Local government. I got approx 3% last year, but it was a flat rate increase of £1925 across all grades so was a higher % for lower earners which seemed fair. It was the highest “cost of living” increase I’ve had in 17 years of working in local government.

Snap, and we have been offered the same this year. Union want RPI plus 2%. They are balloting member in late May apparently (although whatever er happens I don't think we would have to strike in our service).

grayhairdontcare · 11/03/2023 08:03

I got 5 % last year and 8% this year.

Greenfairydust · 11/03/2023 08:15

I started a job in October 2022 and I have heard nothing so far about any April pay increase to reflect inflation.

I will consider looking for another job if this does not happen.

I think employers need to uplift their salaries every year to at least take into account increased cost of living or they are basically asking employees to take a pay cut.

I don't expect a massive increase but if nothing at all is forthcoming that's a sign of a crap employer...

Overthebow · 11/03/2023 08:32

Greenfairydust · 11/03/2023 08:15

I started a job in October 2022 and I have heard nothing so far about any April pay increase to reflect inflation.

I will consider looking for another job if this does not happen.

I think employers need to uplift their salaries every year to at least take into account increased cost of living or they are basically asking employees to take a pay cut.

I don't expect a massive increase but if nothing at all is forthcoming that's a sign of a crap employer...

If you only joined in October you may not be eligible for a pay increase in April this year as you may not have been there long enough. You wouldn’t be at my work. It may be different at yours of course.