New job offering to fund training course... study during work or personal time?

[Poppins2016]

I thought I'd find out the 'norm' before making demands!

I'm in negotiations with a potential new employer who have suggested they fund training which will further my career development (as well as give them someone with useful skills for them!).

I'm asking for part time hours and I'm also currently doing a part time degree (plus I have 2 young children). Therefore I wary of stretching myself too thinly... I also don't think, in principle, that I should be giving up too much personal time to study without pay (but I don't know how reasonable that is in the real world).

The course the employer will fund will require 8-12 hours a week study time on top of my other commitments for 11 months.

I'd like to suggest that I do at least some study during work time, but don't want to do this if it would be 'negotiation suicide'! I'm desperate to leave my current job and this new job is light at the end of the tunnel and could give me a really good opportunity to springboard and actually 'go somewhere' (I'm currently a very bored PA in a dead end job... but equally don't want to jump out of the frying pan into the fire and become overwhelmed).

What do people usually do?

Bump!

I expect any training to be on 'company time.' I don't know if that is the official line, but that is how I feel about it. And I'd not be very happy if I was expected to do any sort of training in my own time.

Wherever I've worked, funded external training and qualifications has been in your own time although they have discretion to let you have the exam (if there is one) off paid. I think the view is generally that they're paying for the normally extortionate course fees and that's enough. It's different if it's mandatory training that everyone has to do.

That's how it's been where I've worked. Also, since the external qualifications aren't usually required for the job the person is already doing it doesn't usually benefit the employer particularly

Normal to do all studying in your own time. If you are wfh and quiet you may get away with a bit but I do think the new employer would look very badly indeed on you demanding this.

I did a part time degree funded by my employer. I got half day off every week to attend classes (which were 1-7pm). I also got 1 day study leave for each exam.
All other study was done in my own time.

Seems fairly mixed... glad I asked as it'll help me to word an email appropriately!

Thank you 🙂

My employer pays either time or money, the takes on the other. Which it is is decided on a case by case basis.