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Interview at MOJ

21 replies

ZM2022 · 08/11/2022 11:12

Any tips?

😃

OP posts:
Yesthatismychildsigh · 08/11/2022 11:21

Bit vague. Turn up on time. Don’t swear at the interviewers.

ZM2022 · 08/11/2022 12:12

Haha 😆 I suppose it was vague.

I just wondered if any mumsnetters worked for MOJ and if they could offer any advice as to the type of questions I may be asked.

OP posts:
loafintheoven · 08/11/2022 12:13

😂

loafintheoven · 08/11/2022 12:14

(Why do my quotes not work! That was in response to @Yesthatismychildsigh )

ThatGirlInACountrySong · 08/11/2022 12:15

Which part of MOJ?

user1471518104 · 08/11/2022 12:16

Don't post a single thing about them or working for them online for a start

BAKEDPOTOTO · 08/11/2022 12:27

I’ve recently fled the MOJ/HMPPS. If you’re looking at interviewing for frontline services (specifically probation/prisons) my advice would to be to seriously reconsider attending the interview in the first place. And I say that as someone who has just been consoling a sobbing ex colleague on the phone.

I know you’ll need to be vague OP, but if you could clarify what area the role is in we may be able to help?

TheGirlWhoLived · 08/11/2022 12:40

Yeah first rule of MOJ…. Don’t mention MOJ!

instantpotnoodle · 08/11/2022 12:41

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Yesthatismychildsigh · 08/11/2022 12:42

MoJ is a very wide ranging description. You need to give us a bit more detail as to the position you’re interviewing for. You’ll probably be asked about transferable skills, why you want the job and why you’d be a good fit, all questions you’d get at most interviews. Can’t be of specific help without knowing.

MabelMoo23 · 08/11/2022 15:19

But also the biggest tip I would give about an interview with MOJ is to prepare around success profiles… as they use the civil service framework. Doesn’t matter what anyone tells you, if you don’t adhere to the behaviour and strengths outlined in the brief you’ll not be successful

ManicMonday007 · 12/12/2022 07:57

@BAKEDPOTATO I've just accepted a job for case administrator for the probation service, is it awful? Your post has worried me.

BAKEDPOTOTO · 13/12/2022 16:24

@ManicMonday007 I’ve been trying to think how best to answer in a way thats reassuring. It may be that you go to an absolutely fantastic office that’s staffed well with just the usual gripes, but I’ve covered five offices in the past three years in different regions and my experience has been quite consistent over the last 18 months or so. All have been amber or red sites within the prioritisation framework. I’d ask what stage they are at in the framework to be honest, it’ll give you a good idea as to the staffing and pressures you may be heading into.

Regardless, I think it’s important you know what you might be heading into. In my years as a probation officer the service is now pretty unrecognisable. Workloads are unsustainably high across admin and probation practitioner roles. And I do mean unsustainably high, with my own workload being at around 210% when I left, so that would be expected to be covered by two full-time people. As a result of high workload probation is stuck in a cycle staff of sick with stress being overwhelmed and leaving, a new individual being recruited another person leaving because of stress etc. essentially everyone is overwhelmed at all levels and its constant state of overwhelm creates a pretty unpleasant working environment which can be snappy, emotional and bitchy, with a real culture of ‘so and so isn’t working hard enough’. I’ve seen many colleagues crying at desks over the last few years with little support other than being told by senior management that they understand how hard we are working but you need to be more resilient. It’s become very much put up and shut up. A lot of probation has changed over the last few years, professional judgement being removed from probation practitioners almost completely with now we only use of approved toolkits rather than using your initiative, ridiculous targets, and it very much like a box ticking exercise at times. My understanding is it’s the same across administration roles. I left because I was frequently criticised for prioritising time with the people I was working with (funny considering it’s always been a people focused service).

As I said your experience may be completely different to my own, But I would encourage you to look at the probation matters blog to get a sense of the level of unrest within the service although I will admit it can be quite cynical at times. I’m more than happy to chat further if you want to PM me where you will be based.

BAKEDPOTOTO · 13/12/2022 16:27

probationmatters.blogspot.com/?m=1

Sorry, I appreciate that was very negative. For what it’s worth some of the most rewarding experiences in my life have been while working for the probation service. Please let me know how it works out for you @ManicMonday007

ManicMonday007 · 14/12/2022 11:12

I've PM'd you. Let me know if you don't get it. Thanks for your response!

username8888 · 14/12/2022 11:20

Ministry of justice? Know your intended role, be up to date with all the latest recommendations and don't wear a mini dress.

Workchatter · 15/12/2022 10:34

Manic Monday - Hi, I am a Probation Officer. I agree the service is struggling big time, however I would encourage you to go into your new role with an open mind and see what you think. There are many opportunities to move on in the civil service if you don't find being a CA is for you. I work in a team in a significantly struggling red site and yes the workload is too high, but equally the support in actual teams is amazing. We smile, we laugh, we bring in treats for others 'just because' and we look out for each other as best we can.

You will be shielded initially as a new member of staff with training and learning the job to go through. Then once you're up and running, use the knowledge of experienced staff to learn what to prioritise, what to short cut and how.

Staff joining bring in enthusiasm and a fresh look and once you're trained will really help improve the situation as a collaborative effort.

Good luck for your new role

ManicMonday007 · 15/12/2022 21:46

@Workchatter

Thank you for your reply. Its good to hear you are a good team as I think that often makes the difference. Is the work interesting and varied? I've not been given a lot of info about the role at the moment. Feel free to PM me if you prefer. Thank you!

Blowyourowntrumpet · 15/12/2022 21:49

Which part of MOJ and what grade

ManicMonday007 · 15/12/2022 22:45

Case administrator for HMPPS. I am having to go in at entry level as I didn't get the SCA job.

Workchatter · 19/12/2022 14:47

ManicMonday007 · 15/12/2022 21:46

@Workchatter

Thank you for your reply. Its good to hear you are a good team as I think that often makes the difference. Is the work interesting and varied? I've not been given a lot of info about the role at the moment. Feel free to PM me if you prefer. Thank you!

Hi, yes it can be interesting and varied, though equally there will be elements of repetition and mundane (not meaning to sound negative, especially as I quite like the reassurance and confidence some repetition can bring!)

You would be liaising with other offices around transfers, working with officers to put report requests on, process recall paperwork (this would be later on once you're more confident) set up orders and licences on the database, some scanning and printing, creating letters, talking to our court teams and more. There would likely be some covering of reception as needed.

Hope this gives you an idea

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