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Do I speak up?

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frangipanetart · 22/07/2022 20:14

Will try to keep this as short as possible but it could be quite a long one!

I work for quite a high pressure company and in the last 3 months we’ve had a spate of resignations, including my boss and my boss’ boss (the department c-level).

I am the European head of a department and I have counterparts in the US and Asia. When my boss (who headed the global function) quit, we were told that no decision would be made for her replacement until a new C-level was appointed (in early 2023) - we would just manage ourselves effectively. In the interim, I’ve had various pep talks from the remaining leadership team within the department (including temporary C-level) telling me that this was a really good opportunity for me to elevate myself, and get my voice heard more, step up to the plate etc. In fairness, my direct boss kept me quite sheltered and I don’t feel I always had the credit or visibility I merited.

I was sad when my boss quit, but after these conversations I started to see the opportunity and began to plan for the role without a direct manager along with the other regional heads - overall I felt quite positive, and thought I’d finally get a bit more visibility and recognition for what I do.

Then, the week before last the US regional head also quit, right before I went on leave for a week. She has a very young team so definitely needed an experienced replacement. While I was out of office (with no forewarning or discussion) an email went out to the whole department (40 people) announcing they’d appointed a new global head (I.e a direct boss for me, covering all 3 regions). This person did the US role for 3 years until 3 years ago before working in another part of the business. I’ve been in my Europe role for the past 3 years.

This person has a bit of a reputation as I micromanager, whereas I’ve had a lot of independence under my previous boss and is already really getting into the weeds of everything without much understanding of the region (has asked some easily googable questions on geography!).

Ultimately what’s done is done, and I’ll do what I can to support her in her transition, but I can’t help but feel very bitter and sad about the lost opportunity (after all those pep talks) and the way it’s been handled on the comms side.

I’m considering writing an email to the interim department head (will work to keep it factual and not too whingey/emotional) to feedback my disappointment on how it’s been handled in the hopes they can be more tactful going forward. It’s probably more of a cathartic exercise as I’m still quite sad, but is this a fool’s errand? Should I just keep quiet? Part of me thinks the problem is I’ve been too quiet/passive and I’ll just keep being walked over unless I speak up, but equally, I’m now going to start actively job hunting so maybe there is no point.

Would really value an outsider’s perspective - thank you!

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Ontomatopea · 22/07/2022 22:38

So you wanted to apply for the role? I'd speak to your bosses boss. Express you had been hoping to apply, is there any other progression you could aim for as you are getting itchy feet.

SQLserved · 22/07/2022 22:52

I would also be questioning why so many resignations? Perhaps it’s time for you to move of too?

Lisad1231981 · 22/07/2022 23:03

Had this sort of thing in my role, I was already working closely with another manager and doing loads of the work but when it came to the role they appointed someone else within the department.
I was upset and disappointed. I ended up emailing the bigger boss and asking her why I wasn't considered for this role, explaining why I thought I was a good fit.
We had a long meeting and it ended up with me in a different role that I was much happier with. I think she realised she hadn't considered everything but also didn't want to lose me so they sort of created the new role.
I would definitely question it and make it clear you were planning to apply.

frangipanetart · 22/07/2022 23:04

Thanks both for replying.

I was led to believe that the new C-level would appoint someone next year, so I never "applied" because as far as I was aware there was nothing to apply for. But I would've liked to have been properly considered - my boss who just left did my current role before being promoted to the global function, so I had hoped the same progression would be on the cards for me

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takeitandleaveit · 22/07/2022 23:05

Your boss has quit, another regional boss has quit, the boss's boss has quit. I'm not sure I'd be wanting to take on more responsibility in that company until I'd found out why.

There is something afoot, you mark my words.

frangipanetart · 22/07/2022 23:07

In terms of resignations SQLserved, our former C-level was a bit of a tyrant, which led to a lot of toxic behaviour and pressure within the department. With them now gone there should I’m theory be scope for that to improve, but I fear it’s quite ingrained.

This is why I’m weighing up whether it’s worth pushing the issue or if I should take this as my final sign to move on.

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MrsOwainGlyndŵr · 22/07/2022 23:09

Was the job actually advertised? And do you work for a U.K. company or an American one?

I think jobs have to be advertised in the U.K., but maybe they don't in America - which is not known for its progressive employment law.

FairyBatman · 22/07/2022 23:16

If you were hoping to take the job and potentially looking to move on anyway, I would express my disappointment about the lack of transparency in the process and also ask what the potential opportunities for progression are now.

if it’s a bit toxic anyway its probably a sign to move on, but if you make it known that you’re open to progression there might be an interesting opportunity for you.

Shy bairns get nowt and all that.

frangipanetart · 22/07/2022 23:17

Really glad it worked out for you @Lisad1231981 . That would be a good outcome for me but just not sure if it’s worth sticking it out.

@MrsOwainGlyndŵr no, not advertised! It’s a UK company.

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frangipanetart · 22/07/2022 23:19

Thanks @FairyBatman - solid advice 👍 Definitely need to be less of a shy bairn!

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MrsOwainGlyndŵr · 22/07/2022 23:25

Don't jobs have to be advertised in the U.K.?

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