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Skipping NHS banding

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Nhsbandhelp · 04/07/2022 19:28

Hi
I was wondering whether it is possible to skip levels of band to progress sooner?
What I mean for example:
I am at mid level band 5 and it will take me 3 years to get a raise and be top band 5.
Top band 5 is basically the lowest band 6.

I want to ask for a raise to skip 3 years and be top band 5 or I will start applying for band 6.
Anybody working in HR, is it even possible and legal?

OP posts:
AgathaMystery · 04/07/2022 19:32

Sadly it’s not how banding works. Your best bet is to just apply for Band 6 or 7.

I was mid 6 & applied for a 7 & negotiated top 7. I changed Trust though and the job spec was a top 7 type thing.

SheWoreYellow · 04/07/2022 19:34

It’s worth asking about a promotion to a band 6.
When I left a band 5 to start a band 6 in a different team, my manager said they would have tried to find me a band 6 role where I was.

EgonSpengler2020 · 04/07/2022 19:38

You need to gain experience and apply for a band 6 post.

I'm curious to know why you think you deserve to skip to the top when the rest of the NHS stuff have to sit and wait or get the relevent experience/ further qualification for a promotion?

BurrosTail · 04/07/2022 19:38

If you already have the skills to do another band then you should just apply for it. Your interview answers will be scored against the other applicants as usual.

SheWoreYellow · 05/07/2022 10:01

EgonSpengler2020 · 04/07/2022 19:38

You need to gain experience and apply for a band 6 post.

I'm curious to know why you think you deserve to skip to the top when the rest of the NHS stuff have to sit and wait or get the relevent experience/ further qualification for a promotion?

She thinks she has the skills for a band six, hence mentioning applying for a band six.

EgonSpengler2020 · 05/07/2022 10:13

SheWoreYellow · 05/07/2022 10:01

She thinks she has the skills for a band six, hence mentioning applying for a band six.

Lots of other staff do too.

This is why I'm asking what makes OP case special, as presumably this would be the first thing any manager would ask if she proposed jumping paypoints outside of normal A4C terms and conditions. If she isn't able to answer this question clearly and persuasively then her manager is likely to consider her a cheeky f*cker and I'd be inclined to agree.

Asdf12345 · 06/07/2022 08:18

I’ve heard of it being done.

The business case has to be that it’s unlikely to lead to other staff trying it, and that it’s cheaper than replacing you. If you fill a niche non clinical role this will be much easier to argue than if you are one of 1800 staff nurses doing ward work in the trust.

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