Patronising boss

[whatisforteamum]

I forgot to clock in at work a couple of times recently.
Working 12 hour days while being short staffed for months.
My young male boss had a go at me saying I won't get paid if I don't clock in.
I know I've worked there for years.
He was patronising and clearly doesn't realise brain fog is real in menopause.
The manager in question doesn't even do the pay so it has zero impact on him.
Do i explain brain fog to him.

I appreciate I wasn't there and didn't hear his exact words or tone but I'd be pretty annoyed if my manager didn't mention to me when my actions were likely to result in less pay, tbh. Regardless of how long I'd worked somewhere.

Is there more to it?

No, you don't explain brain fog to him. You apologise for forgetting to clock in and try very hard to remember next time! Perhaps look at some strategies to help you remember.

What did you think he should do? Not tell you and let you not get paid? Or declare that menopausal employees no longer have to clock in and out?

How do you clock in is it a physical machine or?

Clocking in is pretty vital, in our company it also is the fire roll call , I'd be pretty pissed off with you and I couldn't see how you would forget such a major thing, as you've worked their years it should be as automatic as putting on your seatbelt

A machine.
The manager who puts it through knows all our days are currently 12 hours.
Normally they query and odd break times.
On one occasion I had to sort out a situation that would ve had serious consequences for the company and got distracted.
The person who was patronising doesn't do the wages himself.

Exactly how does it matter that he's young and male when you, after working there for years, didn't sign in when you know you must? Would it have mattered if the boss was young and female / old and female / old and male/ martian? You forgot to sign in, and that has an adverse impact on your pay and possibly your safety. Who was supposed to take that up with you? Nobody?

You are being massively unreasonable.

YABU put a reminder on your phone to clock in and out

I still think it is a big over reaction from him who is salary and doesn't clock in to have a go about 2 occasions in hundreds of days of doing so correctly.

The fact he's mentioned it too you means there has had to do something or be involved in some way .
Just generating something extra for him to do when there was no need.

I have to regularly chase people for time sheets it pisses me off putting them in late has zero impact on them but makes unnecessary work for me .

I'd find it more patronising if the young male manager dismissed me as menopausal every time I didn't do something.

Fair points.
As I said it DOES NOT affect him at all.
He has just be on my case lately.

Of course it affects him - the manager who is in charge of payroll would have given him earache about it, so it's a problem for him in that respect otherwise how would he know about it. He's just doing his job to remind you to clock in.

I am peri menopausal and totally get the brain fog. But clocking in at work if required is a pretty big thing and you will need to come up with a strategy to remember, otherwise you might find yourself not being paid.

He is your manager though, it’s his job to remind you.

If you are experiencing cognitive issues maybe discuss it with him though in case it affects other aspects of your work.

FGS don't mention brain fog! Mention that you are tired from working 12 hour days for a long period of time, and in this situation people make unforced errors. Point out that you don't usually make mistakes like that.

Ask him as a manager what he is doing to solve the staff shortage!

I've asked all of them about staff shortages when 6 became 3.
There is no solution as the industry I work in was affected badly and no one wants the long hours anymore.
Even getting temps is difficult.

Of course it affects him. He has an employee who didn't do what they should. Despite your years of working there you seem to have little grasp of how payroll works. They won't just pay you because you forgot to sign in. You forget to sign in, you aren't in work and don't get paid. Payroll don't just make this sort of stuff up. They have to tally the clocking system with the payroll. So when your pay is wrong because you didn't sign in, or your manager notices you didn't sign in, your manager has to sort things out. And you do it often enough and he probably gets it in the neck from his manager because it makes him and you look incompetent.

If there is a recruitment problem that is something entirely different, and probably as big a problem for him as it is for you.

Stop looking for others to blame and take responsibility. You screwed up. Get over it and don't do it again.

I should've said it is a small place.
It isn't my bosses problem. as he has zero say over pay,or holidays.
But thanks anyway.

One of his reports is failing to do the most basic task at the start of the day, of course it’s his problem.

You're missing the point OP.

If this person is your Line Manager, then they are not being patronising to point out that failing to clock in and out means you are not abiding by procedures that directly link to pay, which is a contractual obligation - you work the hours as clocked, your employer pays you for those hours.

it doesn't matter that you've been there for years
it doesn't matter that you've "only forgotten twice"
it most certainly doesn't matter that he is a man and younger than you.

you need to accept you are in the wrong here and minimising that by making excuses won't change that situation. As PP says, create alarms on your mobile called "clocking in and out" for each end of the day and keep your phone off silent.

Alarms would make no difference as clearly I thought I had clocked in.
It is all good the manager knows the excessive pressure we ve been under and has sorted it out.
I'm hoping not to have to do 60 hour weeks for much longer either.
6 months of it has been draining and no one operates at peak levels when they are exhausted.