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Casual work contracts

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Sarah3587 · 14/06/2022 20:24

I work in a pub and have a casual contract.
I keep being put on the rota for Friday and Saturday nights.
i understand that the nature of hospitality work means I will have to work them sometimes, however I’m the only staff member that’s given them every week. I also work most nights during the week till gone midnight.
I feel like i haven’t seen my children in weeks.
my youngest is disabled and my life is stressful as it is.
would it be unreasonable for me to request that I only do 1 in 4 Friday and Saturdays?
and how should I approach it?

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LIZS · 14/06/2022 20:33

You could ask for either or both off occasionally but doubt you would get to 1 in 4. If you are working late every night are they following the working time directive or have you agreed to waiver it?

Kite22 · 14/06/2022 20:54

It is going to depend on the nature of your contract and the way it works.
By the nature of working in a pub, then obviously most people would expect to work most Friday and Saturday nights.
I would say it would be very unreasonable to ask to only work 1 in 4 but most parts of the country are really short staffed in hospitality at the moment. If you live in an area where there are a lot of vacancies, it gives you more leeway to negotiate than if this is - for example - the only pub in the village, and you would struggle to get to other places to work.

Sarah3587 · 15/06/2022 00:13

Kite22 · 14/06/2022 20:54

It is going to depend on the nature of your contract and the way it works.
By the nature of working in a pub, then obviously most people would expect to work most Friday and Saturday nights.
I would say it would be very unreasonable to ask to only work 1 in 4 but most parts of the country are really short staffed in hospitality at the moment. If you live in an area where there are a lot of vacancies, it gives you more leeway to negotiate than if this is - for example - the only pub in the village, and you would struggle to get to other places to work.

I’m the only staff member who works every weekend. We have several staff members who only work 1 in 2 Fridays and never Saturdays. There is no shortage of hospitality staff in my area. That’s mainly rural areas where they don’t have many young workers or students. Where I live you’ll have 500+ applications for a hotel job according to indeed.
as I said I have a casual contract which means they’re not obligated to give me shifts and I’m not obligated to accept them.
in my interview I said I would like to do 12 hours a week, and could work the occasional Saturday. She was happy to employ me on that basis. She also accepted I couldn’t work Sundays. She said that she has young people working the weekends because they can’t do during the week but would like to be able to give them the odd weekend off.

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Sarah3587 · 15/06/2022 00:15

LIZS · 14/06/2022 20:33

You could ask for either or both off occasionally but doubt you would get to 1 in 4. If you are working late every night are they following the working time directive or have you agreed to waiver it?

If I’m a casual worker then I’m not obligated to accept the shifts. I don’t think an extra hour after closing time is against the law with hospitality?

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Kite22 · 15/06/2022 00:24

Well you've now answered your own question.
If you'd said in your opening post that was what you had agreed at interview, then people could have responded to that information.

There is no shortage of hospitality staff in my area. That’s mainly rural areas where they don’t have many young workers or students.

...and my (huge) City where there are 5 Universities, and every other City if you follow the news.

LIZS · 15/06/2022 07:50

You can turn it down but they are equally not obliged to offer alternatives. Presumably you knew regular Friday and Saturday nights were required. You might however want to check they are following guidelines regarding rest breaks and time off between shifts www.acas.org.uk/working-hours.

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