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Touchy-feely female colleague

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Tisthedamnseason · 25/03/2022 20:08

We have a new woman in our team at work. She joined about 6 weeks ago, and in general I find her very annoying. Which is fine, I know that I’m not going to necessarily like everyone I work with, and I don’t need to.
But she is very touchy feely. If we’re sitting next to each other she’ll put her hand on my arm or thigh if she talks to me (this involves moving her chair closer to me to reach), if she stands up and is asking if anyone wants a coffee etc she’ll put her hand on my back to ask me. She stands and sits so so close all the time. We were in a meeting room today and when we left, I got to the door slightly before her so opened it, and she came up right behind me, and reached over my head to grab the edge of the door to help(?) me open it. She’s not taller than me, so to do this she was right up against me, and it was totally unnecessary - it was a regular door, not heavy, and I wasn’t carrying anything that might have made it difficult. Her face was right in my hair and her front was up against my back. She has no sense of personal space at all.
We’re in the same team, and she doesn’t work more closely with me than anyone else but she seems to have slightly “latched” on to me. We have a hot desk set up and when she arrived this morning she asked the person sitting next to me to switch seats “so I can be closer to you, tisthedamnseason!!” I was not happy as I’d been so relieved when someone sat next to me before she arrived as I thought it would give me a break. We’re only in the office 2/3 days a week, and I tried to just quietly choose my days for when she wouldn’t be in, but she always asks when I’m coming in and then comes in as well even if she wasn’t originally planning to.

I cannot bear it. She’s just constantly touching and coming close and in my face. My body language could not be anymore fuck off, I always yank my hand/arm/leg away when she touches me but she doesn’t seem to notice or care. I have said to her before that I don’t really like being touched but she just laughed and said touching was just how she was Hmm

What’s the best way to approach it? Tell her again in a friendly way to back off? Or just be very blunt? If she was male, I’d probably be complaining to my manager about the repeated thigh touching. But I do think she’s just overly friendly so don’t want to make too much of a fuss about it I guess. I’d guess she’s late 30s/early 40s so she’s not new to working, I just don’t know why she thinks it’s ok. Am I overreacting? Under-reacting? I probably sound a bit pathetic, I should just say something. But I did try!

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dipdye · 26/03/2022 01:51

What everyone said.

This is totally unacceptable

GrumpyPanda · 26/03/2022 02:10

@Weightscales

Is she from the UK?

I've worked with a couple of people like this - all female and I'm female. One was Greek, one was Italian and one was from somewhere near Greece. Can't remember the name place.

All touchy feely. The Greek girl was the worse, she would literally stroke my thighs during a catch up! Haha.

None of them grew up in the UK. They use to say it was a cultural thing - one of them told me someone had, had a word with them about it - so she quizzed me and explained it was just normal back home and she genuinely needed guidance on what was OK and what wasn't. To which being a brit I was like - handshake (this was pre-covid) and that's it. She was bemused but accepted it.

I can see how it might make other people uncomfortable but I work for a big international company with every nationality and you just have to accept some of the differences. Nothing like having a Vietnamese colleague approach you and say - hey you got so fat recently! To put cultural differences into perspective.

I once had a colleague from Russia say to me - why you wear those clothes, so baggy, you look bad, why you not make effort? I'd just walked in with my coffee and responded 'alright, morning to you too' lol.

I do laugh it off Grin but if you don't feel comfortable you should say something.

P.s Its not an insult in Vietnam to call someone fat!

Yes, the sense of personal space varies between cultures. That said, according to OPs description the culprit isn't pawing anyone else in the office.
Nandocushion · 26/03/2022 03:50

OP there was a thread on here very recently about (I think) someone who seemed flirty with the OP's husband? Or the husband was overly flirty without actually flirting? Or something like that. And there was at least one respondent who said 'oh yes I'm like that, I touch people all the time when I'm talking to them and stroke their arms' etc and I really think you need to address your Q to them, because most of us are normal and can only suggest you call the police or set yourself on fire or something.

Flittingaboutagain · 26/03/2022 03:55

I used to be touchy feely but surely Covid is enough of a reason to give people more personal space. How very odd.

Tisthedamnseason · 26/03/2022 06:24

Is she from the UK?

I've worked with a couple of people like this - all female and I'm female. One was Greek, one was Italian and one was from somewhere near Greece. Can't remember the name place.

All touchy feely. The Greek girl was the worse, she would literally stroke my thighs during a catch up! Haha.

Yeah, she’s Greek. But has lived here since uni so her whole adult working life.

And it's not necessarily not sexual anyway just as you're both women

I know it’s not necessarily sexual but it just doesn’t feel like that in this case. I could be wrong of course, it’s just not the general vibe I get.

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HappyMiddleChild · 26/03/2022 07:03

The argument of well I’m just touchy-feely works both ways, you’re not so she should respect that. I’d speak with your boss to make them aware of the situation but tell them that you’re happy to politely broach the subject with your colleague again (ideally with your boss in earshot) then if it continues escalate it.

Foolsrule · 26/03/2022 07:47

Are you sure it isn’t sexual? Rubbing up behind you is fottaging, surely? If this was a man, you’d be making a complaint about sexual harassment. Women can be harassed by other women.

WeAreTheHeroes · 26/03/2022 07:56

You need to be blunt and direct as she's just not getting it. Her reaction is as though you've simply commented that she's touched you, not that you don't want her to do it. She'll probably be offended and possibly get upset, but she's upsetting you by overstepping the mark because she doesn't see there is a mark.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 26/03/2022 08:03

You need to be blunt. Stop touching me. If you touch me again I will be making a complaint with our line manager.

caramac04 · 26/03/2022 08:20

Completely unacceptable, she wants your undivided attention and the constant touching is to make sure you’re concentrating on her.
I agree with pp’s, bluntness is absolutely required.

picklemewalnuts · 26/03/2022 08:23

You need to be respectfully, non accusatorally, absolutely blunt!

'Colleague, I know you are intending to be friendly, but it makes me extremely uncomfortable when you touch me all the time. Please don't make me uncomfortable by touching me all the time, or I will start avoiding you because it makes me so uncomfortable!'

Don't be afraid to be repetitive- she hasn't been able to hear your polite requests to give you more space because it makes no sense to her. You need to make it make sense by telling her repeatedly how uncomfortable you are with her friendly touches.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 26/03/2022 08:30

Tell her straight then report her if she doesn't stop. Make a diary if how many times it's happening and when.

allthegoodusernameshavegone · 26/03/2022 08:35

Fake a persistent cough 😷

TalkToTheHand123 · 26/03/2022 15:20

Stroke her arm back, invite her round to yours and give her a wink.

BashfulClam · 03/04/2022 18:10

Just be direct. Don’t worry about upsetting her as she’s be king on that as a way of stopping you complaining. Say it directly ‘please stop touching me, it makes me uncomfortable!’ If she tries to laugh it off say ‘as I said I am not comfortable and would like you to stop!’ Then you report her. If she asks what days you are in just be non-comittal ‘hmm I’m not sure, oh I need to get on with this e-mail/report…’

peoniesarejustperfect · 03/04/2022 18:23

I would make pointed comments, in a loud voice "Oh gosh - you are a space invader - I need some more space please!!" On a loop. Would drive me crazy too...

balalake · 09/04/2022 14:13

Covid gives you even more reason to speak up, as it may not offend as much. Unacceptable regardless.

Heartbroken2007 · 09/04/2022 15:13

Definitely agree with PP, be very clear next time she does it "please don't touch my arm/leg/back".

And I say that is someone who is naturally inclined to touch someone on the arm etc.

I have colleagues who regularly say hello my love/darling etc. I said to a male colleague, "ok thanks for that sweet" in a very offhand way (a very common phrase where I grew up and it doesn't mean or imply anything sexual), he said he'd prefer not to be called that and I didn't ever use it again.

I think I'd be very clear, if it's just her nature she might be slightly embarrassed, but she should respect it.

If she doesn't then you should raise it further.

Luredbyapomegranate · 09/04/2022 15:18

You gotta just tell her.

Try being a bit sharper next time, if that doesn’t work take her aside and explain that it isn’t personal but it has to stop. If not, go to HR and ask to be moved.

If you hadn’t said anything already I’d say fake a deep fear of Covid but obviously too late for that. She’s too old and this too excessive for her not to know better.

MrsTerryPratchett · 09/04/2022 15:23

I've got one of these. Covid was a gift! No more unwanted hugs and stroking.

I'm very blunt in a jokey way, "free hugs! Only joking don't touch me". I have been known to leap back. But I have done nice but firm in front of my manager just to sew seeds.

And yes, it varies by culture and my El Salvadoran friend struggles to control the impulse to grab me. She does control it though and that's not even at work!

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