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Really need help with a work situation

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EtaLottie · 17/02/2022 10:47

I'm a middle aged woman working in a sector where certainly at a more senior level we're heavily outnumbered by men. I work in a department where I am the only woman.

For context, I know I can be quite sensitive about fairness at work because I experienced a lot of unequal treatment in my childhood. I do try to get over myself about it, but I have strong feelings about everyone being treated properly at work.

But there's a situation at work and I'm really struggling to know what to do. There's no question I'm being treated differently. I'm pretty certain it's because I'm a woman but I can't really prove that. So how do I handle things?

My manager can be quite critical of me in front of other people. Occasionally in private he will praise me. Often the criticism he raises in front of people isn't even valid. For instance, he'll give a example of a project where something has gone wrong. He'll almost always talk about one of my projects that didn't actually fail but he's suggesting it did. He'll use this false example rather than an example of a genuine failure by a male colleague. He talks about their failure to me in private, but it's almost like he wants to keep the men matey with him so he doesn't like to be upfront with them about their failings. He's unwilling to talk to me about my role/development/pay, even at the relevant points of the year when these conversations are happening for everyone. My male colleagues have had pay and roles reviewed.

I feel like a complete mug. I'm a confident woman but every time I try to have discussions with him he makes me feel like I'm doing a bad job. I'm someone who has been very successful in my career. It isn't the case I've had this kind of feedback from other managers or colleagues. I know I'm doing a good job, or at least I was until I became so down and demotivated.

I can't afford to just leave. Roles for middle aged women in my sector are hard to come by, as I said above. If he was a better boss I would actually enjoy this work.

Please help me handle this.

We don't have anyone looking after HR apart from my manager, who is the MD, so no one to escalate to either.

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EtaLottie · 17/02/2022 12:30

Lunch time bump

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PearlclutchersInc · 17/02/2022 12:42

I think you're going to have to bite the bullet and set a meeting to discuss your role/development/pay. If he's done with with everyone else then you're entitled to that and if he refuses, you will have to make the point that its unfair at best, discriminatory at worst.

If you're worried about rocking the boat you really should consider leaving.

EtaLottie · 17/02/2022 12:57

I really have considered leaving and I am looking at my options. It just feels so unfair to have to leave when I'm actually a good employee, and a hard worker with a lot of expertise and experience and I wouldn't be easy to replace at the same level.

I will meet with him but previous experience tells me he will put barriers in place which will require a huge effort to overcome and my motivation is ebbing away by the day.

What a shit situation I've got myself in Sad

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SalsaLove · 17/02/2022 13:09

I think this is more common than you might think, and it’s not anything to do with the quality of your work. He’s a bully. All you can do is find something else. It’s shit that he’s the MD! Also, never work for an organisation that doesn’t have HR!

TibetanTerrah · 17/02/2022 13:31

My male colleagues have had pay and roles reviewed.

"Why have my male colleagues had pay and role reviews and I haven't?"

You sound like you're at the end of your rope with this, understandably. Can you write down all incidents of discrimination, get a meeting with the MD and ask the above question, and would you be prepared to suggest you have a case for sex discrimination and the resulting fallout?

From what you've said it's a pretty clear cut case, however I would expect some serious pushback from your employer. My case took around two years to settle because they fought back hard, even with no leg to stand on.

FinallyHere · 17/02/2022 15:15

My manager can be quite critical of me in front of other people.

Get a new boss. Honestly, this is terrible. Doesn't really matter why. You don't owe such a horrible excuse for a human any loyalty.

Whether you need to change organisations or just an internal move.

Don't bother fighting. Just get a better one.

Good luck.

underneaththeash · 17/02/2022 17:59

If he's fibbing in the meetings you could at least bring that up. If he uses one of your projects again as an example, just say "that one did turn out well though - with a smile" and hopefully he'll stop doing that.

You'll have to push for the review - or take it over his head.

poetryandwine · 21/02/2022 18:08

Hi, @EtaLottie -

I am so sorry this is happening to you. I think you need to advance on several fronts.

  1. As @underneaththeash says, stop letting him get away with inaccurately criticising your work in public. It is giving people the wrong impression and you can’t afford that. You really need to work out a calm, low key but clear way to interject and correct him on the spot whenever he does this. It won’t make him like you, but you might gain some respect.
  1. As PPs have said, you need to raise the topic of a review. Prepare well first. Are you sure all the others at your level have had one? If so, with them being male, it looks very bad for your boss.

If he refuses a pay review or it goes against you then in light of what you have shared with us you might want to consult an employment solicitor specialising in women’s rights.

  1. Even if it goes well, if I were in your position I might be looking to leave. But woman, middle aged, male dominated field - I know this might be much easier said than done

Best wishes

SwedishEdith · 21/02/2022 18:15

Is there anyone you can confide in? I had a manager exactly like this over 30 years ago and others noticed that he used to put me down in front of other people. Never when we were 121. The only "solution" was moving to a different manager - they won't change.

whatnumber · 21/02/2022 19:20

You've done amazing to get where you are. Why should you have to leave?
I would arrange a meeting with him and have notes on what you want to say. How you want a pay review and all the brilliant things you have done.
Believe in yourself and have rock solid confidence.
In public every time he critiques you then calmly point out how and why he is wrong. Just confidently point out the facts, no emotion, no apologies. If there are any silences let him fill them.
When he brings other colleagues errors up in private point out that in public he says your projects are wrong.
Don't think of yourself as over sensitive. Rather think of all the value you have and the amount you are worth. Every bit as much as the men.
I work with a lot of men too.

Whydoesthecatalwaysdothat · 26/02/2022 17:15

Okay, let's just recap...

You're heavily outnumbered by men.
You are the only woman in your department.
You're being treated differently.
Your manager is critical about you in front of others.
His criticisms aren't even valid.
Your manager never talks to you about your role/development/pay.
Male members of the team have their pay and roles reviewed.

Find another job. You are on a hiding to nothing here.

parietal · 26/02/2022 20:35

Buff up your CV and look elsewhere. There are lots of jobs at the moment and this one doesn't sound worth fighting for.

TizerorFizz · 26/02/2022 23:58

@EtaLottie
If there is no pay or performance review, how does your salary increase? What is in your contract of employment regarding salary negotiations? Is there no performance management or review of your work?

Basically you know it’s a shit company. They don’t care about staff. They don’t appear to have transparent staffing policies. It also appears to be jobs (and money) for the boys. So you have to get another job!

SynchroSwimmer · 27/02/2022 00:19

Could you prepare a sheet, with bullet your points role/development/successful projects/pay - and present it to him “in advance of my review” - sort of take control yourself?…..so he can’t ignore you.

Meh2020 · 27/02/2022 00:35

Get some advice from ACAS; they are very familiar with this type of behaviour and will be able to advise you.

As others have said you are going to need to get hard to this behaviour and start calling him out on it. I suspect if he’s praising you in private but putting your work down in public that he’s being one of the lads/bits club etc. wanker.

Good luck OP - def get advice and start compiling the examples in a diary and getting your CV out there.

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