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Any managers on here please?

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Peanut82 · 20/12/2021 13:21

My DD (17) applied for a job in the NHS. She was successful at the interview and she provided references on Friday.
Today the lady who interviewed her emailed her and said she'd asked her manager to have a look at her application.
I work in the NHS and don't remember this happening when I applied. DD is convinced they will withdraw the conditional offer but does anyone know what this means please?

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msc6199 · 20/12/2021 14:57

NHS here - I've never heard of this, but as long as the references come back OK I can't see why there'd be any issues. It could be anything, it could be that the interviewer was so impressed with her application that she wants her manager to see the kind of person they have coming into the organisation! Without context of what else was said, its hard to say. Congrats to her on the role!

Peanut82 · 20/12/2021 15:04

Thank you
The email literally said "Hi dd, I have passed your application to my manager for her to look at, this should be by tomorrow, Kind regards"
I can't see why there would be an issue with references but it's possible I suppose. It's not something I've heard of before but DD is an over thinker and is convinced her references aren't up to scratch and they'll withdraw the offer

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Gonnagetgoing · 20/12/2021 15:09

I've worked in the NHS (but on contracts and also when someone was interviewed for a permanent role) - I'd say if they are looking at the application they either want to double check to see if she's exactly the right fit for their department or they're impressed and want to show it to someone else.

I'd say if she's provided the references she has nothing to worry about and good luck to your daughter going forward.

They seemed very professional manager wise compared to some other government departments I worked for.

Gonnagetgoing · 20/12/2021 15:12

@Peanut82

Thank you The email literally said "Hi dd, I have passed your application to my manager for her to look at, this should be by tomorrow, Kind regards" I can't see why there would be an issue with references but it's possible I suppose. It's not something I've heard of before but DD is an over thinker and is convinced her references aren't up to scratch and they'll withdraw the offer
@Peanut82 - bear in mind that it's just before Christmas and New Year and many staff are away so tell DD not to worry (hopefully they should get this sorted out beforehand).

I also found younger staff (apprentices and such like) I worked with in NHS, there was a very good duty of care, pastoral care with them - so with your DD being 17 I'd really tell her not to worry at all! We had one apprentice/or used to be but was taken on who was the son of one of the PAs/secretaries there.

Fallulah · 20/12/2021 15:13

There was a lot of micromanagement in the NHS when I worked in it - it’s possible the line manager has been told to do the recruiting but the manager wants to rubber stamp the person who the line manager selected.

Peanut82 · 20/12/2021 15:18

Thanks for the replies, I've tried to reassure dd and told her with the time of year people are not at work or are WFH etc.
Hopefully they'll be in touch with her soon.
As I said I can't see a problem with her references (2 previous employers)

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Gonnagetgoing · 20/12/2021 15:53

@Fallulah

There was a lot of micromanagement in the NHS when I worked in it - it’s possible the line manager has been told to do the recruiting but the manager wants to rubber stamp the person who the line manager selected.
@Fallulah - ah yes - micromanagement. Probably that's it.

Just a heads up to your DD but I had a young manager in my last NHS contract job who was an awful micromanager (had been taught to do this by her last boss). Please tell your DD to be aware of this as personally I don't think this is right and she might not want to stand up for herself.

BobbieT1999 · 20/12/2021 15:55

@Fallulah

There was a lot of micromanagement in the NHS when I worked in it - it’s possible the line manager has been told to do the recruiting but the manager wants to rubber stamp the person who the line manager selected.
This is what I was going to say. Smacks of micromanagement to me - the manager is insisting they sign off on everything.
msc6199 · 20/12/2021 15:58

Micromanagement is the worst. I'm lucky to have never experienced it in the NHS, I think there's always the potential for it to exist in any profession. Hopefully they get back to your DD asap with good news RE start dates etc xx

Alarmset · 20/12/2021 16:15

The manager gets final sign off once all the formalities, including references are complete? I'd think likely just a formality though.

Niconacotaco · 20/12/2021 16:19

There are rules about working nightshift under 18 I think. Could this be the problem?

NavigatingAdolescence · 20/12/2021 16:21

@Niconacotaco

There are rules about working nightshift under 18 I think. Could this be the problem?
There are rules around working in frontline roles for under 18s. What job has she applied for?
msc6199 · 20/12/2021 16:35

Also, in my experience its always been the manager who has conducted the interviews, so if the manager wasn't at the interview it would make sense for them to see the application (although I don't think it would be anything other than them reviewing the application of the successful applicant!) X

Peanut82 · 20/12/2021 18:43

@NavigatingAdolescence it's for ward housekeeper, I don't think her age is the issue though there's other people her age that do the same job

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ThankGoodnessForTea · 23/12/2021 18:29

I’m a recruiting band 7 for the NHS. It’s the interview panel that decides on who gets the job based on scoring etc. In my case, the band 8 (my line manager and overall manager of the department) will do all the recruitment documentation and organise the HR checks but I have never had him over-ride my decision.

It’s probably just to sort out HR checks to be honest. These can take a while - especially for someone new to the NHS - so tell your DD not to worry. Congrats to her!

ThankGoodnessForTea · 23/12/2021 18:32

Also, all application forms are saved in case of any comeback so it may be just that!

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