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Honestly, would you stay or go?

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2022TheYearofMe · 12/12/2021 17:14

Name changed for this as I don’t want anything identifying.

So, I hate my job. Really, really, REALLY hate it. I’m miserable, stressed, dread every Tuesday morning, can't sleep for the anxiety.

I’ve discussed with my Line Manager my reasons for disliking the job again and again, it improves for a little while then goes off again. It’s the nature of the job, it’s not my LM’s fault, the job and I are simply not a good match, nothing will change that.

I work for a large well known corporate company, and I’ve been there 36.5 years, they’ve been good to me, paid well, 34 years defined benefit pension, 2 years defined contribution (where I upped my contribution to 50% and employer provided 13%). I've always given 110% to the role and received decades of good performance reviews.

I’ve always worked full time, even when the kids were small, I’ve brought them up pretty much by myself whilst DH built his career and worked away. I’ve done the entire mental and physical load at home inside and outside including all the stereotypical “men’s work”.

I went part time 2 years ago, and now I only hate it 3 days a week instead of 5. Moving to another internal role isn’t really an option as it will be frying pan to fire and picking up another P/T position will be like finding hen’s teeth.

DH earns well over 100k a year, been together 38 years from teenagers and we share everything including all money.
His bonus is 4 x my salary on top.

Kids grown and left. We’ve paid for their driving lessons and first cars, put them through university, helped them with renovations to their first homes (they saved the deposit but both could only afford tatty houses).

Mortgage paid off. No debts, no finance, no loans.

Elderly parents that increasingly take more and more of my time. I spend days doing hospital, optician, dentist, GP trips, taking them shopping, managing their finances, letting them offload their fears and moans.

I’m 55, DH fully 1000% supports me packing it in and not working ever again. Adult DC fully support me giving up work and “retiring” as they say, but it probably means being more available for them!

So, and this isn't genuinely meant to be any kind of stealth boast and I don't want to offend the 1000s of other hard working women out that that have to keep going regardless, but genuinely, in my situation would you pack it all in and not be in paid employment ever again if you were in my shoes?

It sounds like a no brainer on paper, which is why I’ve typed all this out. I simply daren't press the button.

So why do I feel like I can’t do it? Is it because it’s been part of my life since I was 19? Is it because I have always valued my financial independence, even though I could divorce tomorrow retain my great pension (his is a similar value) and have a 50/50 split of all our assets? Even though we are happy together and in it for life, even though DH is incredibly generous, and I hold all the purse strings?

I guess I’m looking for an outside opinion, maybe for reasons why I shouldn’t do it, or reasons why (as I suspect) this is the most incredible opportunity, and I am very fortunate and won’t look back.

No nasty comments please, I know I’m lucky but I’m feeling vulnerable right now and terrified I will make the wrong decision and throw away a well-paid, flexible career with great holiday allowance and pension contributions, worked from home since 2006, nice set of colleagues – even though I am miserable and don’t sleep at night with the anxiety of the role.

WWYD?

OP posts:
justthecat · 12/12/2021 18:39

Do it! You’ll never look back and sounds like you deserve it!

MrsLargeEmbodied · 12/12/2021 18:43

do you like your colleagues?

MrsLargeEmbodied · 12/12/2021 18:43

have you made plans?

Mabelface · 12/12/2021 18:59

In your shoes, my resignation letter would be there waiting for them tomorrow morning!

ftw163532 · 12/12/2021 19:11

What do you plan to do instead? In terms of structure and purpose?

Even if you're not happy, you might be surprised how miserable you could end up from losing the structure/purpose it gives you. Caring/supporting your parents might feel even harder if that becomes the dominant part of your week.

When you're in work that sounds lame - "oh, structure is important" - but when you've been out of work for a while and every day blurs into one to the point where you have no idea what day it even is... well, you realise that it matters and affects your mental well-being.

That's not a reason to stay, just something to factor into your plans. Especially if you are talking about walking away from a job that is part of your identity (it's easy to say "your job shouldn't be your identity", but for most people it is).

IWasFunBeforeMum · 12/12/2021 19:12

Leave!!! If you enjoyed it then fine but you don't and you don't need the money so it's a no brainer!

DutifulDaughterWifeMother · 12/12/2021 19:41

Hi OP, can I just say firstly that you sound like such a lovely lady. Speaking from my own experience having had to retire on ill health grounds after 20 years I found that I didn’t have a reason to get up for. I know our situations are very different and towards the end I just wanted to get out of that place only because it brought home to me that mentally I couldn’t do my job anymore and everyday was a struggle getting to work both physically & mentally and I thought once I never needed to go back I would feel so much happier but instead I had a sense of loss as I didn’t know what I was meant to do anymore. My children were older so didn’t need me to get them up in the morning, my husband super supportive but I was lost. I can feel your unhappiness and sense of dread at the prospect of going to work but then what? Will you become chief of everything for everyone? Is that how you see yourself…? Or do you want to still have some sense of structure in your life so you don’t lose ‘you’ to everyone else. You won’t even realise when you become that ‘yes’ person to everyone who needs your help but what about YOU in all of this? What do you see yourself doing when you no longer have to go to work? Yes you’ll be able to fill your days ferrying the oldies around, doing things that they want you to do and helping the kids but amongst all of that what about what you want? I think you need to reflect on what sort of life you will have ahead of you once you are no longer doing the 9-5. Your every moment cannot be spent looking after the needs of others and not your own & that is not selfish to think of it like that. Trust me it has taken me 6 years to get to this point but that’s a different story. You on the other hand have time don’t rush, normally when people look to retire they go on gardening leave, work reduced hrs, go on retirement courses that can help them prepare for the next chapter in their life and this is something you should do. Us women spend so long working, looking after others and just being on the treadmill of family life that we can forget to look after the one person we should and that is ourselves. So go get some sessions with a therapist, talk it through, look at your options, explore where you see your life heading and then the reality of it. You need to prepare yourself mentally and emotionally as your life is about to change and for the better. I truly wish you the best of luck and wish you so much happiness x

justthecat · 12/12/2021 19:52

And you wrote your thread title

hivemindneeded · 13/12/2021 00:01

Why is your mindset all or nothing? Why can't you leave this job you hate and find a new job in a role you'd enjoy more. Voluntary if that's what suits you. leaving your job doesn't automatically make you the servant of the rest of the family. You are allowed to take your time, pursue your own interests and retrain if you like.

FictionalCharacter · 13/12/2021 01:41

@DPotter

Leave

However and it's an important however

Draw your boundaries hard and fast with elderly parents and adult children's demands on you otherwise you'll be swapping a job you hate but get paid for, with jobs you hate and don't get paid for along with all the guilt that you can't do everything you're asked to do.

I know so many women who once retired are expected to provide free full time childcare plus the responsibilities for ailing elderly parents, who wish they had never retired at all. Make it clear that yes you are retiring BUT you will not do x, y or z because you are retired. Programme in some things for yourself - taking up a new hobby, picking up an old hobby, learning russian, volunteering at a charity shop.

Pls don't be at the beck and call of everyone else. Have some fun for you too

This 100%.
pisspants · 13/12/2021 01:53

in your situation I would definitely leave. Life is short and you can afford to. You have a supportive partner and meaningful.and important things to do with your time. Go for it.

Anordinarymum · 13/12/2021 02:00

I think you are feeling bad because this is not what you had planned. You want to retire when you want to and not because you feel you have to.
Remember it is your decision whatever you do regardless of any pressure to leave.

If this were me I would go. You have earned the right to retire and it sounds like you will be busy anyway and a lot happier

2022TheYearofMe · 13/12/2021 07:15

@DutifulDaughterWifeMother

Hi OP, can I just say firstly that you sound like such a lovely lady. Speaking from my own experience having had to retire on ill health grounds after 20 years I found that I didn’t have a reason to get up for. I know our situations are very different and towards the end I just wanted to get out of that place only because it brought home to me that mentally I couldn’t do my job anymore and everyday was a struggle getting to work both physically & mentally and I thought once I never needed to go back I would feel so much happier but instead I had a sense of loss as I didn’t know what I was meant to do anymore. My children were older so didn’t need me to get them up in the morning, my husband super supportive but I was lost. I can feel your unhappiness and sense of dread at the prospect of going to work but then what? Will you become chief of everything for everyone? Is that how you see yourself…? Or do you want to still have some sense of structure in your life so you don’t lose ‘you’ to everyone else. You won’t even realise when you become that ‘yes’ person to everyone who needs your help but what about YOU in all of this? What do you see yourself doing when you no longer have to go to work? Yes you’ll be able to fill your days ferrying the oldies around, doing things that they want you to do and helping the kids but amongst all of that what about what you want? I think you need to reflect on what sort of life you will have ahead of you once you are no longer doing the 9-5. Your every moment cannot be spent looking after the needs of others and not your own & that is not selfish to think of it like that. Trust me it has taken me 6 years to get to this point but that’s a different story. You on the other hand have time don’t rush, normally when people look to retire they go on gardening leave, work reduced hrs, go on retirement courses that can help them prepare for the next chapter in their life and this is something you should do. Us women spend so long working, looking after others and just being on the treadmill of family life that we can forget to look after the one person we should and that is ourselves. So go get some sessions with a therapist, talk it through, look at your options, explore where you see your life heading and then the reality of it. You need to prepare yourself mentally and emotionally as your life is about to change and for the better. I truly wish you the best of luck and wish you so much happiness x
Thank you, wise words 💐
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ElectraBlue · 13/12/2021 07:48

Leave! you sound like you will manage financially and you need a break.

Or is there any likelihood of your company making redundancies in the near future? as you could in this case take voluntary redundancy and get pay out...

Seriously it sounds like it is time for you to go. You can always find a new more flexible and interesting part-time job even if that means lower pay.

2022TheYearofMe · 13/12/2021 07:56

@Anordinarymum

I think you are feeling bad because this is not what you had planned. You want to retire when you want to and not because you feel you have to. Remember it is your decision whatever you do regardless of any pressure to leave.

If this were me I would go. You have earned the right to retire and it sounds like you will be busy anyway and a lot happier

Yes!

It isn’t what I planned or what I wanted and I definitely feel like my hand has been forced. I’m in a good position and I am so grateful for that, but had I been in a job where I at least slept at night I wouldn’t have been ready to leave.

Thanks for pointing that out, it helps explain some of why I’m feeling the way I am.

OP posts:
2022TheYearofMe · 13/12/2021 08:02

@ElectraBlue

Leave! you sound like you will manage financially and you need a break.

Or is there any likelihood of your company making redundancies in the near future? as you could in this case take voluntary redundancy and get pay out...

Seriously it sounds like it is time for you to go. You can always find a new more flexible and interesting part-time job even if that means lower pay.

Ha ha, I wish!

I think I’ve stuck it this long partly because my company has historically done VR packages every year or two, but now after Brexit and Covid it seems there is a massive labour shortage across all industries so the chances of that seem to be zero right now. We have colleagues leaving every week to better their careers elsewhere because they can.

You are right though, the call for a part time job that has great colleagues and no mental stress with some physical graft and getting out of the house is calling louder and louder.

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SpookyScarySkeletons · 13/12/2021 08:05

I think you are definitely making the right decision.

Not to be macabre or anything but why spend the next 10 years until retirement feeling unhappy, anxious and stressed when you could get hit by a bus tomorrow. You have the financial freedom to do whatever you want!

I would have my notice typed out and would be ringing round the cat rescues to see who needed volunteers (but then I'm a crazy cat lady)!

LiveintheNow · 13/12/2021 08:10

I would leave but first check if going part time has affected your pension.

Holidaytan · 13/12/2021 08:11

You really, really don’t have to work to get social interaction. I’m 40 and don’t work much (few hours a week, give it take). No kids.
I walk with organised groups, some of whom have become close friends, go to exercise classes, take part in group sports, attend social activity groups, dance, volunteer with greyhounds.
I am happy and relaxed and I enjoy life so much more than when I was working full time. Even when that was working for myself. Don’t waste your life being unhappy.

astoundedgoat · 13/12/2021 08:14

It sounds like you are talking about leaving an unfulfilling, exhausting job that pays very well to take up an unfulfilling, exhausting job that pays nothing - carer for your parents.

Leave your job by all means but do you honestly want your world to shrink like this?

With your experience it sounds like you could set up a consultancy of some kind and have a bit more control over your professional life.

Have you considered talking to a career specialist?

astoundedgoat · 13/12/2021 08:15

A lot of the things you describe doing for your parents could be hired out to an assistant for 2 - 3 hours a week.

soberfabulous · 13/12/2021 08:17

Oh my god what are you waiting for, do it!!!

I've spent 24 years in my industry and absolutely loathe it. 70 hour weeks, relentless pressure.

I fantasize about leaving. You are living my dream.

DO IT!!

Purplewithred · 13/12/2021 08:21

Absolutely definitely leave. Do not waste a second more of your one and only life and your relative youth/health on something that you hate and that your family doesn't need any more. You've more than earned it.

Also, the world is screaming out for capable people like you in the voluntary sector, and your caring responsibilities are going to grow.

I do echo @DutifulDaughterWifeMother to a degree but I work and still feel that way. Just make sure that overall you have a good balance of things to do and that you understand you've earned your freedom and deserve to enjoy it.

EmmasMum12 · 13/12/2021 08:35

It's incredibly unhealthy for who you are to be so inextricably linked to your job and income/pension.

Start finding out who you ACTUALLY are.

Leave your job and start to explore the you who resides underneath the job and finance fixation

GrrrlPwr · 13/12/2021 08:55

Find a life coach to talk things through with. It sounds like you need to explore the issues around working.

I would leave, but that's me not you.

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