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Just want to vent, my boss is ... calm down... not very nice.

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ExConstance · 25/10/2021 16:36

I work for an organisation as a manager of part of it. I'm qualified in this line of work to masters level and also have legal qualifications, I was a solicitor for over 20 years. In the sector I work in confidentiality is very important and there has been no suggestion in the 10+ years I've been here that I have ever failed to respect that rule.
I have never really got on with my boss, who is overall manager of the concern, I have thwarted her attempts to micro manage me ( she used to ask to see emails I was intending to send and change the wording in insignificant ways) She also instructed me to complain about the incorrect use of the words "who" and "whom" in a regulators report of our organisation (I did not, and made my views very clear about this)
Last week I was invited to a Zoom meeting I don't usually get invited to, and I didn't have much to contribute so was very quiet. During the course of the meeting there was discussion about some matters which were clearly linked to employees personal circumstances and were extremely confidential. As this discussion continues I get an email from her pointing out to me that there are sensitive matters being discussed and they must be kept confidential. I replied saying I considered it hurtful that she should even mention this. The implication here is that she doesn't trust me.
I really have had enough, she is well over retirement age and seems unable to let go, especially from her number one passion of making everyone's life a misery. She spends all her weekends here in her office, despite having more support staff for her role than anyone else doing her job that I have come across.
When anyone stands up to her she gets very awkward. After the incident she said she would like to come round to my office and talk to me about it, I asked her what time she was free and said I thought it would be a very good idea, she has not replied yet, 3 days later. She has also failed to reply to any of my routine emails which impinge on the welfare of our customers.
I'm just wondering if this time I should make a formal grievance to our Board, in any event I will clearly state that her comment was unacceptable when I do see her again. I have obviously not discussed the content of the meeting with anyone, but I have spoken to DH about why I was so upset, he told me, as he has before that she is just a sad person with nothing or no one in her life except work and that I should not let it get to me. I just feel totally fed up with this and need to do something. The rest of my job is OK really, the team I run is very good to work with, though they have all had their experiences with her of a similar nature to mine.

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Peachee · 26/10/2021 13:41

She sounds like a massively anxious manager.. if you google it there’s reams of advice about how to handle them as it is so common.. there’s nothing worse than neurotic management that has no faith in their staff it’s absolutely soul destroying for all involved.. people like and need to feel a sense of responsibility and value and you will never get that from a control freak.. she comes across as stuck in her ways, inexperienced and a bit condescending.

CottageOnTheHill · 26/10/2021 13:47

@Spunout

16:40Bluntness100

She was correct in reminding you of confidentiality. She has behaved correctly, it wasn’t personal. She was doing her job

She would only have been correct to do so if she emailed every single member of the meeting which she obviously didn't because if shed intended that she could have just said it in the meeting anyway.

I agree with this. She should have emailed everyone.
Noeuf · 26/10/2021 13:53

I’m with you op. Sounds like a nightmare situation. I can’t believe she emailed you during the meeting to tell you, how insulting. Why not speak out as a general reminder (as if you all need one at that level/experience Hmm) im in a similar situation and it’s soul destroying

Suzi888 · 26/10/2021 18:17

Ps well done on your weight loss and exercise OPFlowers

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 28/10/2021 22:42

Yeah this is one of those situations where it looks as though what she is doing is reasonable but she is doing it to be spiteful.

ExConstance · 29/10/2021 10:59

Update.this week she has not mentioned it but she has been extremely, rather over, pleasant to me. I think she realises it was not an appropriate thing to do.

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luckylavender · 30/10/2021 17:12

I don't think that example is bad at all. I also don't think saying she is 'well over retirement age' is at all professional.

libertyfarmboots · 01/11/2021 20:26

I don’t think emailing to remind OP about confidentiality while the meeting is still live is necessary either. State it to everyone if it needs to be said. I can see why this kind of style of interaction would grind you down.

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 01/11/2021 20:38

@ExConstance

Update.this week she has not mentioned it but she has been extremely, rather over, pleasant to me. I think she realises it was not an appropriate thing to do.
It won't last, this behaviour is not in her comfort zone.
ExConstance · 02/11/2021 09:56

I only said she is well over retirement age because in our sector it is very rare not to retire in your 50's and people are leaving in droves at the moment, I will be retiring at 66 next year and I'm constantly asked at sector specific events ( usually Zoom) why I'm still working. I'm only working just to get the department safely the other side of Covid, and to introduce new IT to make it easier to run. She has asked lots of inappropriate questions about when I'm thinking of going, about which I keep quiet as the notice period is very long and they will have plenty of time to replace me. I just say i have no idea but I certainly won't be there when I'm over 70. I log all this sort of stuff in case I need to involve my union at some point.

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retroginglass · 04/11/2021 14:09

Haven't read all of the replies but my God when anyone has an employment grievance you always see the comment that they sound hard work. I know where you are coming from OP. I work in a legal environment, not at your level but have seen similar issues. You are qualified at your job and she should not be asked you to let her see your emails before they send them. She sounds very old school and controlling. Think your husband has a point. She has nothing else in her life and can't let go. Few of them where I work. Best of luck to you.

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