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Payrise retracted

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standingupfornonsense · 20/10/2021 07:04

Hello, I need a little bit of advice if possible...

I recently went through my annual appraisal which was a really positive experience. Feedback was overwhelmingly good. All objectives completed. Recognition that I have been done way more than expected etc. I had a promotion in April with a very small pay rise which wasn't reflective of the role o had moved into but have given it 6 months to settle in and prove myself which I feel I have done....

As per of the meeting we discussed moving to full time from 4 days as the role demands it - was in agreement so this has now happened (through a fw process). At the same time I asked for a pay rise where I received a very firm yes of of agreement, agreed the new salary. Very excited as feel it's deserved and in line with the new role. This meeting took place with one of the business partners.

I have chased for written confirmation only to be told yesterday the other BP disagrees so now I won't be given a payrise at all!!

What would you do?

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Onthegrid · 20/10/2021 07:07

Personally I would resign, however that depends on what your skills are , if you are going to be able to find another job and if you can afford to be out of work

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standingupfornonsense · 20/10/2021 07:24

I was approached earlier in the year for a similar role - salary was what I'd asked for during the review as knew it was industry standard. So it's an option but I equally wouldn't want to be out of work.

We are a small organisation (30 people) and I do enjoy my job but this has floored me!

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Fetarabbit · 20/10/2021 07:27

I would apply for other jobs that you feel match your worth, if you were offered another one recently you'll probably find something soon, and then resign and tell them why.
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AutumnLeafy · 20/10/2021 07:28

Apply for another job. It's a good time to apply as not many people like to move before Christmas.

BoomChicka · 20/10/2021 07:32

The company either don't think you're worth any more, and are happy for you to walk, or could be nervous about overheads and cash flow.. either way it's very poor of them to go back on your agreed rise. If the promotion comes with a more senior title and the hours suit you, I would wait a few months, get your CV up to date then start job hunting.

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standingupfornonsense · 20/10/2021 07:33

I do think it is the latter, however, prospects are good and we are still recruiting....

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TSSDNCOP · 20/10/2021 15:30

I would say that as a verbal offer is binding that failure to produce it is in breach of contract.

Then your options are to let it go or resign and take them to ET, which they will likely lose, albeit you will need a new job.

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standingupfornonsense · 20/10/2021 22:12

Thanks everyone.

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Elisheva · 20/10/2021 22:18

Challenge it! Say to the BP that recruited you that you and he had agreed that the pay rise was agreed and in line with the new role and ask why the other BP disagreed. Does he think that the new role is not worth the pay, or that you are not worth the pay? And then ask them to explain. Fight for your worth, don’t just accept this decision.

BurntO · 20/10/2021 22:24

I’d absolute fight it, say it was agreed upon during X meeting, based on meeting x/y/z during appraisal and extra responsibilities. Have you already signed a contract for full time?

NoSquirrels · 20/10/2021 22:25

@Elisheva

Challenge it! Say to the BP that recruited you that you and he had agreed that the pay rise was agreed and in line with the new role and ask why the other BP disagreed. Does he think that the new role is not worth the pay, or that you are not worth the pay? And then ask them to explain. Fight for your worth, don’t just accept this decision.
What they say ^^

I’d certainly ask to have a meeting with both business partners to “discuss”.

GroggyLegs · 20/10/2021 22:25

Id say the pay rise was, in your eyes, to make it worthwhile you losing the flexibility of 4-day working & time with your family. It comes at a cost to your personal life and for that you expect to be fairly paid as agreed at review.

If the terms have changed then you need to be given time to reconsider whether the new arrangement works for you.

Be bold OP.
Don't let them undervalue you.

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standingupfornonsense · 21/10/2021 06:50

Thanks for your additional comments. I agree and the compromise for me moving to 5 days was balanced with the payrise but it doesn't feel like that now. I am well paid for the role I do so in some sense would be overpaid with the jump but they set the salary in the first place!

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gurnnine · 22/10/2021 00:28

Were any minutes taken of the meeting you had? If so, I would request a copy. I'd definitely challenge this. I'd also start looking at other jobs opportunities. This would upset me

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standingupfornonsense · 22/10/2021 11:17

No - was over teams and not recorded either.

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xksismybestletter · 01/11/2021 20:32

can you retract the offer to go 5 days then, as a bit of an F you?
And then only do 4 days work.

I'd probably do that for a fortnight and then forget!!

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standingupfornonsense · 02/11/2021 06:28

Unfortunately not.

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