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Private messages as evidence for dismissal

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MrsCherrytree · 02/10/2021 22:44

Can employers use screenshots of private messages, on personal devices, out of hours against an individual as evidence of gross misconduct?

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Nopetryagain · 02/10/2021 22:49

Usually yes, how were they obtained by the employer?

Lougle · 02/10/2021 22:50

Yes, pretty sure they can.

Hibiscusroses · 02/10/2021 22:51

If the messages are evidence that policies were breached (eg social media policies) then yes, I believe so. Can you give some more context @MrsCherrytree ?

backoffice · 02/10/2021 22:52

Yep usually

LuluJakey1 · 02/10/2021 22:53

Depends how they acquired them and what they say.

Social media - yes
If they are messages about colleagues, contain sensitive info about work or staff or are highly critical or offensive or reveal your illegal activities, yes.

backoffice · 02/10/2021 22:54

Basically if they’ve got copies - they aren’t private…

GrettaGreen · 02/10/2021 22:58

Obviously it could have said anything but for example if there was a screenshot of you saying "I stole 1 of the new work ipads" of course that would be allowed to be used against you for dismissal.

icedcoffees · 02/10/2021 23:02

Yes.

SweetBabyCheeses99 · 02/10/2021 23:03

Don’t forget that they would also have to prove who owns all these social media accounts. Anyone can be catfished.

MrsCherrytree · 02/10/2021 23:04

It's hard to explain without going into detail.

But in its simplest form.

A manager, texting an employee confidential information and making threats to damage the company.

Employee screenshots the messages and whistle-blows.

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MrsCherrytree · 02/10/2021 23:05

Not social media. Text messages, so can easily be confirmed to be from the person accused

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MrsCherrytree · 02/10/2021 23:07

Would there be any chance of consequences for the employee who whistleblows

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LoveFall · 02/10/2021 23:08

Yes, private messages that are publicly viewable. In other words not really private. Or if someone discloses the message to the employer and it is not in some other way privileged.

You can be fired, for example, by posting negative things about your employer on Facebook.

backoffice · 02/10/2021 23:08

Depends on the whistleblowing policy.

The honest truth is usually yes it’s hell and they end up leaving.

AlexaShutUp · 02/10/2021 23:12

The whistle-blower (is this you?) should be protected, but that may not always happen in practice.

I would report it in the circumstances that you describe, OP. And take the risk. Otherwise you potentially become complicit?

WhyOhWhyOhWhyyyy · 03/10/2021 08:17

Whistleblowers are protected but there are certain specific things that fall under the definition of whistleblowing. It isn’t just as simple as you complaining about a manager and therefore being classed as a whistleblower. You will also need to report to a specific person and this should be detailed in an internal policy somewhere

Some advice here on what counts as a protected disclosure (aka a whistleblow). www.davidsonmorris.com/protected-disclosure/

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