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How would you advise DS re this job opportunity?

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RunningStrong · 20/09/2021 09:15

Obviously it's his decision but he's talking to me about it.

He's 20yo, just scraped some A levels but not interested in going to Uni, which for him is probably the right decision.

Since he left school he's stayed with the large fast food chain where he had a PT job, working for a franchise holder who has 4 stores. I have to say, they've been excellent employers to date, excellent training, really supportive through lockdown and when DH died. (DS has suffered a major life event in the last few months, not a great time to be making big decisions).

DS has done well, he's now a shift manager, which means whilst he has no overall responsibility for the restaurant, he is the most senior person in the store on his shift. He does seem to have some aptitude, both for dealing with the public and managing people.

Through a friend's parent, he's been offered the opportunity to be "Area Manager" for their fast food franchise. They're just starting out and have (apparently) bought three takeaways. The chain itself has operated in UK for more than 20 years but is new to our area and much smaller than the one he currently works at. I'd never heard of them, but they do seem well established in the areas where they do trade.

My natural inclination is to stay with the company who have proved themselves to be supportive and that this new venture comes with significant risk.

I'm also concerned that whilst he's done well in a closely managed environment with good support and training, he's in no way qualified for this post.

I've always worked for large firms while DH worked for several small businesses and the small companies were mostly terrible employers.

OTOH, I've probably missed opportunities through being too risk adverse throughout my life and if you can't take a risk at 20 when can you?

It's double his current salary and if it really was a disaster, the current employer might take him back (or might not).

However, there might be an opportunity for a degree apprenticeship with current company and (if he wants it) eventually progression beyond area manager for 3 stores.

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GOODCAT · 20/09/2021 09:22

He should go for it. The more he can stretch himself and learn the better. Only if his current employer can offer him a step up should the consider staying there. At 20 he should be out there progressing his career and seeing where it takes him.

languagelover96 · 20/09/2021 09:29

Tell him to go for it. This is a amazing opportunity really. He is young, this is the time to be looking for work. Life is too short otherwise.

StarryStarrySocks · 20/09/2021 09:32

I would advise him to stay where he is, ultimately there will be more opportunities and support in a larger company.

Hoppinggreen · 20/09/2021 09:35

I would tell him to go for it
The time to take risks is when you are 20 and dint have a mortgage and children (assuming he doesn’t) and it doesn’t sound like much of a risk anyway.
He shouldn’t stay where he is out of gratitude for their support

Cheesepuff1 · 20/09/2021 09:35

take it, absolutely push himself at that age. if he works in fast food there will always be jobs to fall back on

ssd · 20/09/2021 09:36

Id stay where he is. He needs stability and they sound decent employers.

FWBNC · 20/09/2021 09:38

I don't agree.

I think he should stay where he is & make the most of their career progression/apprenticeship schemes.

I've been involved in (advising) enough franchise owners over the years, who either didn't understand what they were getting for their money or just had no business skills. His friends parents have just bought 3 takeaways & they're looking to hire a 20 yo on an inflated salary to be an 'area manager' my eyes just rolled so hard they landed on the floor behind me.

If he had any sense he'll avoid it like the plague!! Get the most he can out of where he is! He doesn't have to stay there forever!

I presume he has a full drivers licence already? If not this would be a good idea.

FWBNC · 20/09/2021 09:39

@Hoppinggreen

I would tell him to go for it The time to take risks is when you are 20 and dint have a mortgage and children (assuming he doesn’t) and it doesn’t sound like much of a risk anyway. He shouldn’t stay where he is out of gratitude for their support
Doesn't sound like much of a risk??? Seriously?

'Area manager' to a couple who have just taken on a franchise for 3 takeaways?

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NoSquirrels · 20/09/2021 09:46

I agree with FWNBC. The fact these franchisees want to employ him as area manager, in what’s essentially a start-up, to manage 3 stores, is a big red flag to me about their experience and business acumen.

Yes, push yourself in your career at 20. But some things are not the right thing at the right time and it sounds to me like the mature decision would be to turn this one down.

If I were him, I’d be going back to my supportive boss and saying, Look, been offered this amazing opportunity on much more money but… I live working here, I’m learning lots and I want to progress. I’m ambitious and I want to succeed so can we please talk about the degree apprenticeship and my prospects?

Then he’ll know - how much will they support him and advance him, or does he need to look outside the company now to get ahead later.

RunningStrong · 20/09/2021 09:51

@FWBNC

I don't agree.

I think he should stay where he is & make the most of their career progression/apprenticeship schemes.

I've been involved in (advising) enough franchise owners over the years, who either didn't understand what they were getting for their money or just had no business skills. His friends parents have just bought 3 takeaways & they're looking to hire a 20 yo on an inflated salary to be an 'area manager' my eyes just rolled so hard they landed on the floor behind me.

If he had any sense he'll avoid it like the plague!! Get the most he can out of where he is! He doesn't have to stay there forever!

I presume he has a full drivers licence already? If not this would be a good idea.

Yes I was briefly involved in financing franchise holders years ago and this is exactly my response. If they want to appoint him, they don't know what they're doing!

Yes he has a driver's licence.

OP posts:
FWBNC · 26/10/2021 13:03

@RunningStrong

What did DS decide to do?

TractorAndHeadphones · 27/10/2021 19:19

Stay of course

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