Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Work

Chat with other users about all things related to working life on our Work forum.

Advice on my apprenticeship?

14 replies

anonymousbear · 11/06/2021 21:12

Sorry for the vague title, and big apologises if this isn't the place for an apprenticeship question. I really need help, so let me just write it all out and hopefully it makes sense.

Ok, to preface let me say the apprenticeship I have been taken on for (after months) has finally approved my application, but I'm starting to feel I was a desperate dead end they've reached.

I just started as an apprentice dispensary assistant. I applied because it's local, I can learn a skills and a qualification, and the hours are good. I applied last January, then about 4 times this year, in the last 6 months.

On my first day today, in a busy pharmacy RIGHT BESIDE a doctors, I was alone with one other employee and a local pharmacy manager. This pharmacy has 1 employee and no permanent manager, local managers take it on rotation (I think? I just know there's no permanent manager right now), and the employee training me (reluctantly I assume because when the manager asked her to take me under her wing today she blatantly rolled her eyes, which was rude from the get go). Her logic of training, verbatim, is to "chuck me into the deep end", she had me answering phones to companies I know nothing of, about things I know nothing of. Using a cash register she showed me how to use once. She had me deal with deliveries, and approve prescriptions I wouldn't have a clue about. She left me for an hour with the local manager who was in an online meeting in the back, who couldn't keep stepping out. Patients & customers were asking me questions I wouldn't know the answer to, and they were getting outwardly pissed off at me. I had one elderly woman come in to complain about her prescriptions not getting delivered on Wednesday, and I told her I was new and didn't know anything of it (but apologised profusely), and she told me the doctor & chemist was trying to kill her. When the employee eventually came back and I told her of everything she didn't seem phased. I was never told when I could go on my lunch, as I was asked to do a million things every time I tried to. After working for 6 hours I eventually got a half hour break, but was unable to even have lunch because there's nowhere to sit. The other employee had her car and she went elsewhere to eat, but after all that, I had nowhere to sit and eat some lunch, and ended up working 9 hours with a 30 minute break and not a single moment to sit down. I was THEN told I'd be on my own for 2 days next week. I expressed I wouldn't feel ok with that just yet, but I was told it was ok because I need to learn eventually. I am NOT qualified for that yet, and I can't answer questions for these people, I have no prior pharmaceutical knowledge and I have very fundamental retail knowledge but this isn't retail. I get paid £4 an hour and I feel they're really taking advantage of someone willing and wanting to gain experience. Is this an overreaction? What should I do?

OP posts:
borntobequiet · 11/06/2021 21:16

Who is your training provider? You should be able to take this up with your assessor/trainer, training coordinator or managers at the provider.
This is absolutely not the way apprentices should be treated by an employer.

anonymousbear · 11/06/2021 21:38

Thank you for your reply. My apprenticeship is actually directly through the pharmacy, so my only option is to call head office on Monday and stress my worries and see if they're understanding about it. I have no qualifications and I felt so anxious and uneasy being left to dispense of prescriptions on my own for an hour. I can't possibly do it for nearly a full day twice next week.

OP posts:
PerseverancePays · 11/06/2021 22:12

It sounds to me like the pharmacy are completely failing to provide an adequate service. As a customer I would not be happy to have my prescription filled or checked by someone who had no idea what they were doing.
Maybe you need some kind of printed material that shows exactly how you are going to progress. It doesn’t look like it’s a good placement or that the management have understood their duties and obligations in taking on an apprentice. I would look elsewhere.

anonymousbear · 11/06/2021 22:37

I was told the reason the vacancy became available again was because an apprentice quit a few weeks into their placement. Which is why earlier in my post I mentioned I feel like a dead end they've reached, and they're taking advantage of young workers by having them do a full time job for half the price. I do not feel the pharmacy have a clue about apprenticeships, and they're just looking for employees to work without paying them a full wage. I had no confidence in my ability to dispense prescriptions 4 hours into the job. Aside from head office, I don't know who to get in touch with about this. Plus, I have signed off from my jobseekers, so I have no income to fall back on.

OP posts:
Hollyhocksarenotmessy · 11/06/2021 22:44

Is this a real apprenticeship? You must be registered with a trading provider to do a formal apprenticeship, and be getting 20% of your work time for off the job training.

They can't just all you an apprentice otherwise, and they can't pay you at apprentice rate..

It also sounds as though they would be breaking all sorts of regulations letting you run a pharmacy alone.

borntobequiet · 11/06/2021 22:47

Whatever this arrangement is, it’s not an apprenticeship.

anonymousbear · 11/06/2021 23:03

Unfortunately this is a real apprenticeship. I applied directly through their careers page on their website. When I applied last January (2020, right before covid) it was through a training provider. However, they have no affiliation. I was working for around 4 hours today, my first day, before I was left alone to run the pharmacy for a full hour. And now I've been told 2 hours after I get to work Tuesday and Wednesday next week, I'll be there on my own, and I'll be closing too. My anxiety is hitting the roof even thinking of that. I'll do my best to contact someone on Monday and get a better idea of whether this is allowed!

OP posts:
Blowingagale · 11/06/2021 23:04

First step would be manager. If this is meant to be a formal apprenticeship you should have a training manager. All apprenticeships in pharmacy have to be regulated (including support staff). You could complain through your company. If they do not immediately take action then maybe contact the General Pharmaceutical Council as this practice seems dangerous. Read through the information below. There is part for if you are working for the pharmacy. it covers whistleblower procedures

www.pharmacyregulation.org/education/raising-concerns-about-pharmacy-education-and-training#employers

78percentLindt · 11/06/2021 23:07

This is appaling. I am a retired pharmacist and when I worked in community pharmacy we would expect you to work on the counter for 6 months and do that NVQ first before you were allowed to work in the dispensary . It definately not appropriate.
I would be tempted to ring the General Pharmaceutical Council and seek advice There are standards for training on their website, but they really apply for those doing level 3 There used to be rules about staffing levels for training. My student techs had 2 hours a day study time, and certainly were not the only tech for at least their first 18 months.
Alternately, ring the local CCG and ask to speak to the pharmacy advisor.
If you are an apprentice you should have a training provider for the academic element of the training, some use Buttercups or NPA, ask them for advice.

FireworksAndSparklers · 11/06/2021 23:08

I don't understand this. Legally only registered pharmacists can fill prescriptions. This honestly makes no sense at all! How can this pharmacy be trading legally!?

anonymousbear · 11/06/2021 23:09

Thank you so much for that link, I'll read through and definitely contact the correct people because I feel if I leave the position, this will only continue with other future employees. And the fact that there's no permanent pharmacy manager, I don't know who to contact otherwise. It's much appreciated.

OP posts:
78percentLindt · 11/06/2021 23:12

Ah blowingagale has found the link I was looking for on the GPhC website
I really can't get over them leaving you in charge.

anonymousbear · 11/06/2021 23:19

@78percentLindt Thank you for your message. Me either. I thought at best today would be an introduction day, to get a feel for the place, observe. But I genuinely have no training provider, I'll have no study/theory to follow up on. As I mentioned, I feel they want an employee they don't need to pay a full wage for but who'll do the full job anyway. I have already dealt with a few angry customers today, for reasons out of my control (prescriptions not being ready when they were ordered earlier this week, when we didn't have stock), so I really feel I was thrown in the deep end today. I've never felt so low.

OP posts:
78percentLindt · 16/06/2021 09:57

@anonymousbear
How did it go yesterday? I assume you were not literally on your own in the pharmacy, but there was a pharmacy locum there.
Have you resolved the problem with your training programme and supervision?
I've thought about you over the weekend and hope you are getting things sorted.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread